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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:18 PM Original message |
The whine about Congress waiting until after recess to vote on contempt is pathetic |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. There should be no August recess. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. I second that. |
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Janice325 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. WTF?????? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. What a bunch of whiners... |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. We've got money to raise, rubber chicken to eat, palms to grease |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I know, "My President authorizes torture..." |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. and "Ohh Ohh, I don't want to see my neighbor's kid killed in Iraq."... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. as if waiting until they return to pass this had anything at all to do with those lives |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Caving on an Iraq timeline....Stalling on enforcing the law... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It was Howard Fineman who first used the 'cave-in' language after the vote |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Actually, I got the language from Skinner... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I was watching immediately after the vote. The first MSNBC report came from Fineman |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Self delete |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Miers and Bolten are in contempt of congress....wah, wah, wah |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. "Wah, wah, email interceptions and wiretaps...." |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. so, NOW you're paying attention to what Congress is doing to confront Bush |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I've been paying attention. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. obviously not close enough |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. "which leads to an acquittal along party lines" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I believe in securing some sort of outside prosecution or investigation |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. DU is in a fever pitch right now. Don't bother trying to reason it down. |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:13 PM Original message |
Its rare I agree with you but you are right. n/t |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
82. You're right |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. oh in a way let them go vacation and let them hear a mouthful |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. Isn't it hypocritical |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. the complaint about the Iraqi parliament isn't as the republicans frame it |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. But it stands to reason that |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. exactly. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ah good of course here come the 'splainers,. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I guess they should spend the month of August.. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
55. Yes to your first proposal |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
89. I figured at least one person would bite on that one... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
60. Well perhaps they could spare the time to issue the contempt citations? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. followed by the constant critics |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. I hope they remember what they were doing when they get back |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Chances are that *something* will happen that will make us all forget... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Here's something else to think about if they do take a break. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. well, the meme is an empty lie |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. The terms "whine" and "pathetic" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. but, it's the whining that I'm complaining about . . . |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Why is a complaint "whining" when you disagree, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. no. but these arguments about the recess strike me as mere whines |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I've noticed that about bigtree posts... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'm not one-dimensional |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And besides, rational OPs sink like rocks... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. you mean mundane subject lines? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Just for kicks, what's your definition of "flamebait"? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. for starters |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Whatever the mods say it is. Duh. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. There's a lot of that to notice. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. take it or leave it |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Well, Tony Snow uses those terms frequently. Just in the last few hours, as a matter of fact. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. they don't own the language or the sentiment |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Indeed. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. does that apply to everything he's ever said? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Are you asking if everything Tony Snow says is "right wing rhetoric," |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. you know damn well that taking two COMMONLY USED words he's used |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I'm beginning to think that |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. I can kick my own threads. I don't have a bit of problem responding though |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You've probably noticed |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I have a journal. I express myself in many ways. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Ok. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Venting against the 'whine' about the recess |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
41. The whiners also forget... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. "we might be pleasantly surprised" - its tooth fairy time! |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. You're talkin' to a guy who grew up in... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Well then why bother ? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. That is an excellent question. I'm so glad you asked. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. What good does it do to kick the corrupt in the ass? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. where did I say that? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Our party leaders want to be re-elected. Money talks and so do we. |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. Because the candidates could raise more money |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
49. but but but Harriet Myers is personally slaying troops in Iraq |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. I love rational DU-ers. You rock BT! "First time in history..." Tony Snow. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. "*something* will happen that will make us all forget.." |
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checks-n-balances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. That's a clearcut case of projection if I've ever heard one |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
85. If the contempt citation can't be enforced, it's useless |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Not quite... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. They are to busy bashing Conyers to stop and think about anything else. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. Mystery Solved... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. It's all just a big fucking joke, right Junkdrawer? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. It appears to me that you started numerous threads dissing DUers... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I think it's convenient for you to ignore the substance of my posts |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. You start your thread with "whine" and "pathetic", then claim I'm attacking your character? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. not 'whiner' but 'a whine' about the recess |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. now it's the citizen's turn--to spank thoise Republicans into voting with the Dems |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. Who's going to enforce a contempt citation and arrest Miers, et al? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Why should they have the opportunity to act on this at all |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Bush and Gonzo won't permit an independent counsel |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. how did we get Fitzgerald? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Ashcroft let Fitzgerald in. |
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