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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:00 PM
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DOW plunges 735 points. Worst week since March 2003. Signs the war in Iraq is strangling the economy
Via "Mugsy's Rap Sheet":

DOW plunges 735 points. Worst week since March 2003.
Signs the war in Iraq is strangling the economy.


Apparently, the bloodletting was not over when the Dow Jones Industrial Index (DJIA or “DOW” for short) plunged 311 points last Thursday. Hype over the looming “14,000 point milestone” wafted through the press for days after the DOW leapt 283 points on July 12th… the day the Democratic Congress announced it would be voting to pull all U.S. forces out of Iraq within 120 days. (...) it took four days to climb the last 50 points to cross the 14,000 threshold on July 20th. Then the bottom fell out, losing 149 points the next day, bouncing back a little only to lose 226 points on Tuesday, 311 on Thursday, and now another 208 points on Friday, making this the worst week for the DOW since March 11, 2003. Hmm, seems like I remember something significant happening in March 2003, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. (the DOW leapt 282 points two days before the invasion of Iraq on news that war might be avoided.)

So, why did the DOW see its worst week since the invasion of Iraq (and the worst week for the S&P 500 since September 11th) after such a rapid 1,700 point climb in just four months? As I wrote yesterday, interest rates were cut to the bone after 9/11, boosting new home sales to record highs as unwitting home buyers agreed to “adjustable rate” mortgages with low monthly payments. Those mortgages are responsible for the skyrocketing number of foreclosures and defaults as interest rates were increased to attract foreign investment to pay for the war in Iraq (rising steadily since June 2003.)

Add to that the price of oil jumping $2 a barrel to within $1 of its all-time high of $77, and you have all the ingredients for a floundering economy.

(...)


Read the full story on "Mugsy's Rap Sheet".
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:19 PM
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1. kick
:kick:
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:21 PM
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2. "The economy is strong, and growing stronger"
Rinse, repeat
Rinse, repeat
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:31 PM
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3. Al Quaida are on the retrteat!

The insurgency is in its final throes!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:31 PM
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6. and America is in it's final throes! Democracy is in it's final throes!
And the Constitution is in it's final throes.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:02 PM
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4. another afternoon kick!!
:dem: :kick: :kick:
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:19 PM
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5. I wonder how much of the remaining 26% that love * are in the investor
class...
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:14 PM
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12. Amazing.
I wonder how many collect Social Security.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:32 PM
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7. The Plunge Protection Team says:
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 02:32 PM by CGowen
US TREASURY Secretary Henry Paulson said the drop in global sharemarkets on Thursday and Friday was a case of volatility in financial markets that is always present.

"We're always going to have volatility," Mr Paulson said in a television interview. "What we see going on right now is risk being repriced and, as we get a broad reassessment of risk, we're getting volatility."

....

As Treasury Secretary, Mr Paulson chairs the interagency President's Working Group on Financial Markets that monitors market conditions. There was no indication it had met on Thursday but Mr Paulson, a Wall Street veteran, turned aside a question whether he feared a "credit crunch" might develop.

...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/treasury-head-says-volatility-not-new/2007/07/27/1185339259969.html



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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:21 PM
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9. Like I said near the end...
...if my reasoning for the plunge is correct, we haven't seen the end of it yet.

I fully expect the bulk of that baseless 1,700 gain to be wiped out by early to mid-August.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:03 PM
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17. "We're always going to have volatility."
--Nortius Maximus, Pompeii, A.D. 78
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onewholaughsatfools Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:51 PM
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8. this is the 911 economy
I firmly believe this is a 911 economy, jobs created that produce war toys, yes housing boom and all of that, well it's like a big bubble, now people have their homes and mortgage's which they have pulled out all equity in them, the war will be ending so no more war toys, oh yes and the government borrowed all this money to make this economy roll...so unlike the dot.com bubble which the government was not invested in the government is totally vested in this economy and its all on borrowed money. so the government has to figure out a way to keep this machine running and of course war is the only way to do this and lower taxes is just not gonna cut it. blessings
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:32 PM
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15. I agree.
War spending is the only reason we are not in a recession.

The full pain of this irresponsible, criminal misadministration will be felt after Bush leaves office and he knows it.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:58 PM
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10. yea, and smirky thinks everything is just find...
he's utterly delusional.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:59 PM
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11. CEO's & corporate bosses making billions upon billions, as workers work harder & longer
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 04:23 PM by LaPera
hours, making less pay, with less & less benefits...(if they haven't already been taken away). No unions to support the workers rights, jobs shipped abroad so the CEO can make even more money and people forced to work non union jobs by the tens of million and the corporates say shut the fuck up and take what we give you, or we'll just find someone who'll work for even less....

This is very clear republican philosophy & ideology, the asshole Reagan really got it started, and we all see what 12 years of a republican congress gave us and now BushCo has fully bored out what the republican true intentions have always been all along, showing us exactly what republican ideology is all about...as if we didn't already know, busting up unions, wars for corporate profit...

Corporates get all the government help, welfare, (subsidies is what republicans call them) over people and workers who get nothing from the government for their tax dollars but a military fighting for more corporate profit and imperialism...This has been the republican agenda all along, republican ideology is a sick ideology based on more for the wealthy and we are all just slaves who deserve nothing.

This is what republican ideology really is they've lied for years pretending to care about the people, whom they really despise because we aren't rich, pretending to have democratic ideals for people, next on the republican hit list is Social Security...How many republicans have collected & enjoyed SS benefits?...Republican ideology - and people actually vote for these republican pigs, and will again for some bullshit non issue like guns or gay marriage...

WOULD YOU EVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN? I find it UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE that people who work for a living actually do!
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:55 PM
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21. Have the Republicans ever had an idea
that didn't involve rich people getting more money?
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:01 AM
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22. I share the disgust with the Republicans but
I also see that the problem isnt only on one side, why do you think the Republicans get away with what they do? Is it Democrats are soft and afraid they will lose their support? Why would they lose support for stopping whats been happening, they would gain our support. But hey, we dont have the financial support like the the corporations do. I am voting Democrat because I think thats where the best opportunity is for change but I will never look away from their wrong doings because that will just put us in the same situation.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:39 AM
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23. Bush v. Gore
We have the Supreme Court to thank for this goddamn mess.

That and ignorant fuckers who think an AWOL fake cowboy is "tough" but a guy with a Silver Star is a wimp.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:17 PM
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13. And the repukes seem to think the economy is doing just great!
Yeah, if you're a stock swindler or an oil company executive! :eyes:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:22 PM
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14. The good news is, once Bush destroys Wall Street too, maybe he'll
leave willingly once his term is up.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:00 PM
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16. Good thing we left * that huge budget surplus.
He'll be able to ensure we're okay, as long as he doesn't do anything dumb with it.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:21 PM
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18. It is the credit crunch that screwed up two company buyouts...
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 05:23 PM by calipendence
... that has the investors now nervous about what's down the road, and makes it harder and harder to find lenders to allow capital to be raised to make these big buyouts, etc.

Why do we have this credit crunch? Because we are putting more money into the hands of fewer people, and more of the rest of the economy is borrowed to the hilt to make ends meet. If we had more even distribution of wealth, this credit crunch wouldn't be happening.

These neocon supply siders we have in power kept thinking they could shelter their efforts of screwing the poor and the middle class by still pointing to a stock market that's rising, by making sure that corporate America had its wishes served, but its now showing that even the stock market can't be kept sheltered from the vanishing middle class in this country and the falling dollar. It IS time to bring back the 70% top marginal tax rate, and get out of NAFTA/CAFTA/GATT so that we can get back to building up a decent working middle class in this country!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:23 PM
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19. Just pumping up the flock for the next shearing...
doubt many remember it, but 41 had a similar collapse and it was spun by the media as a "normal correction" long enough to get out of the quarter and start the clock again.

That time the economy was preserved (such as it was) by the digital/personal computing revolution, what do we have now to save our asses?


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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:50 PM
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20. Because people are realizing
we are sitting on house of cards built on a mountain of debt. It is no exaggeration to say the basis of the economy in the 2000's is debt and that is no way to run a country. I have money in the stock market that I would rather not lose, but it will be worth it if we are forced to implement economic principles that make sense. Of course the Republiclowns will probably convince everyone that the problem is gay flag-burners playing violent video games - that or the estate tax.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:46 AM
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24. You know..
It will be blamed on the minimum wage hike.Rich people resent having to pay for their privilege you know.There is no"invisible hand only a huge ponzi scam.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:50 AM
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25. does the "Dow" apply to most Americans?
Most of my co-workers have a hard time justifying $4.00 for a galllon of milk.Big f'ing deal.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:23 AM
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26. Uhh, yeah...
Something like this happened in 1929 and many people not in the market were hurt.

At a minimum, more people will be unemployed. If it's real bad, another Great Depression.

So I'd say it applies. Big time.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:26 AM
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27. Funny, no one mentioned the economy on the Sun. A.M.'s talk shows!!!!!
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:16 PM
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28. Kick For The Uninformed
This is REALITY folks. Not the BULLSHIT that the Corporate WHORE Media tells you.

Be secure in your finances, because if things begin to unravel, you want to have a life jacket and safety net handy.
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