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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:30 AM Original message |
Why are we suddenly losing so many helicopters in Iraq? |
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mcar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I read somewhere that the Saudis are supplying |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The Saudis are supporting the Sunnis |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. It really has nothing to do with the "Saudis and the Sunnis". It has to do with American |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Nice, blaming the Saudis instead of the Neocons who created all of this. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. There's plenty of blame for both of them. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. So the Saudi's are innocent |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Aren't the Saudis heavily invested in investment groups such as Carlyle, |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Exactly |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. It's FRANCISCO Franco. Otherwise, I agree. -nt |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. thanks for sorting me out. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Ummm The Saudis are aligned WITH the neo-cons.... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. The Saudi royal family, yes. The majority of remaining Saudis, not so much. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. The neocons blame their abject failure on Iran and Syria |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. This link discusses in further detail |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Yeah, they discovered it's much easier to take down helicopters than it is tall buildings. |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. It seems the insurgents are getting more sophisticated... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Or training on how to use them |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Please... |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. From Saudi Arabia |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. technology |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. Because the insurgency is very well-armed. |
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tinfoilinfor2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. Because president pandora opened the gates of hell. |
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itsmesgd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. the locals are watching the chopper's patterns and are setting up and waiting for a good shot |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Probably getting good intelligence too... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
8. I assume it's some sort of hand-held antiaircraft missile |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. Because the occupied people that live there don't want the helicopters there. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yeah, but that's been the case for ~4 years now |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. If history was any indication, the last few weeks would happen eventually. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Creepy Soviets-in-Afghanistan Comparison: |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. We are also losing many non-coms and officers, not by chance n/t |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. Not enough turn around time... |
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stonecoldsober (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
18. The Iranians, of course. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. No, no, we just need to secretly carpet bomb Cambodia |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
19. Enemy getting better, crews getting tired, helicopters getting older. (NT) |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
20. I Heard Last Week On CSPAN. . . |
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justiceischeap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. Maybe it's just being reported more |
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Carl21014 (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
23. I used to schedule salvage operations... |
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KenHodson (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. Game Theory 101 |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. One thing is AGE |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. reminds me of something that may be important. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Well, we know there are massive maintenance problems |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
37. incompetence. |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Incompetence has been a problem for a long time |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Just about six years now. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. suddenly??? you might want to ask Tammy Duckworth about that |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. we're losing a lot more a lot faster than we used to |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. she was shot down in late 2004 |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Thanks for the info |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
41. personally I blame the Snickers ad |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. Because we're arming and training those who are attacking us. |
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