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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:06 PM Original message |
Do the Iraqi people have a right to resist foreign invaders? |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. I say yes!!!! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. yes, that is why they want us out!!!! |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Of course. EVERYONE has that right. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would say they are and should as anyone would |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. ABSOLUTELY!!!! Just the way ANY other nation that had foreign........ |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was just thinking of posting on this same thing Jack |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. They have the right to fight our military. They do not have the |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. As a sovereign nation, it always has the right, and the world has |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Is it enabling the enemy? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Do you know what NATO is? |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yup. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
65. It probably won't be good |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. So what are our rights - the Americans and the British? |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. a couple of points ... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. There are levels of complicity... |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. "If the government had been less incompetent there wouldn't have been a war in the first place." |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
70. I think you aren't accurately viewing the situations |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #70 |
81. Ah yes, the ol' "white man's burden" bullshit. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
136. I want peace in Iraq |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. The invasion caused the civil war. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #92 |
105. I would argue that the invasion created the conditions that |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #105 |
115. No |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #115 |
125. Yes. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #115 |
173. I don't think it's entirely fair to say that we chose the victor in a civil war |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #173 |
179. In terms of location it's the capital is in the Sunni heartland. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. I thought the city itself was majority Shia...I could be wrong |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:11 AM Response to Reply #70 |
95. Is signing American oil contracts "doing what's best for the wellbeing of Iraqi people"? |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #95 |
134. I said that we NEED to do whats best for their wellbeing |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 06:56 AM Response to Reply #70 |
110. yeah, that obscenely huge US embassy being built for the "wellbeing of Iraq" |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. yes of course they do. |
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haymark (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
17. Iraqis have rights |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
91. How do you know who is doing these things? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. For Sake Of Accuracy, We Are No Longer Foreign Invaders. Our Presence Is Requested. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Gee |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. In Spite Of All That, We Are Still Currently Not Foreign Invaders. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Um, they should "protest in the streets?" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. The Point Is That The Iraqi Government Welcomes Our Presence And Therefore We Are Not In Fact |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
73. Incorrect Capitalization Does Not An Authority Make. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
97. The Quisling government welcomed Germany's presence in Norway |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
126. The "Iraqi Government" left |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
96. "They should write to their lawmakers" - you mean the American consultants rewriting the oil law? |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
111. wow. the iraqi people should "write to their lawmakers" |
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In Truth We Trust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
183. Having been illegally invaded prior to the installation of a puppet gov't means that said puppet gov |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #183 |
193. Obviously We Are In Wholehearted Disagreement And Each Have Our Own Logic And Reasoning. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. An occupation government requires the occupier to keep it in power over the occupied people. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
76. I no longer think the Iraq gov is a puppet regime of the US |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
117. The Iraqi government and the insurgents ARE IRAQI PEOPLE. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #117 |
133. No they are a faction of the Iraqi people. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #133 |
171. No, they're IRAQI PEOPLE, and any disputes they have are internal; U.S. shouldn't exacerbate discord |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
200. You have a serious distorted view of events. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #200 |
203. Agreed, the Nazi example serves little in this case... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #76 |
167. I think you are right on the mark |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. by your logic the US presence in Vietnam was OK. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Fact: Iraq Has A Government, Albeit A Pathetic One. Fact: That Government Was Elected, Despite A |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Iraq has a government, eh? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Did the Germans conduct the same kind of bogus election in |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I don't know. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
77. Were the French bombing each other |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #77 |
107. We might be in agreement. |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
89. B4 coming to power Hitler only got 33% of the German people's vote! |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #89 |
106. Indeed, purple fingers do not a democracy make. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
174. The one thing I really don't criticize in Iraq is the election...aside from the timing of it |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 04:01 AM Response to Reply #42 |
93. Fact:USA has a govt. Fact: Bush was also elected by a process proven fraudulent |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
123. Sorry, But Say It All You Want; I Still Don't Agree With You. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
143. You are the one twisting reality & refusing to answer questions. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. To Each Their Own Opinion. |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #143 |
153. If the Iraqi puppets asked the US to leave ... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #153 |
181. For what it is worth, here is what happened in the Philippines. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #181 |
196. Doesn't compare |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
144. Bush swindled two presidential elections in a row. n/t |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Talk About A Non-Germane Response. Totally Irrelevant To This Discussion. |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #146 |
155. Fact: Bush/Cheney Administration is a complete fraud. Fact: We the people are not legally... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #155 |
194. Fact: Your Arguments Have Very Little Relevance To This Debate. Try Harder. |
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bananarepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #194 |
201. Think harder! Fraudulant administration sets up puppet Iraqi Government! n/t |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #123 |
151. Illegal invasion + occupation = illegal occupation. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #123 |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. I'm Laughing At You. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
150. I actually sort of agree with you |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #150 |
157. See suggestion in posts 11 (last four para) and 115 - thanks |
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Ani Yun Wiya (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
37. So tell me the date that... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Your Post Made Zero Sense, With All Due Respect. Maybe You Need To Look Up The Definition Of |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #39 |
98. OperationMindCrime, you are factually incorrect about this -- see post #93. n/t |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
148. No, I'm Not 'Factually Incorrect' About This. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I think the poster's point was not that we were not "foreign", but |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Exactly. Thanks. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
99. "force the Iraqis to defend themselves" LOL -- where have I heard that before? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #99 |
124. Why, They Shouldn't? As Long As They Can't, There's An Excuse For Our Being There. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. LOL |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
66. Let's take that accuracy one step further. Who appointed those |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
140. Such naivete, the Iraqi government wasn't elected by the people, |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #140 |
152. Speaking Of Naivete, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 06:51 AM Response to Reply #152 |
163. No, we're not asking you to "think exactly like I do" OMC, we're asking you to look at the truth |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #163 |
195. That Is Truly Funny. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yes, but that's not what they're doing. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. So, the 3100 American deaths |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Are you denying that it's a civil war in Iraq? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Why do you ask that question? |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Eh, you lost me. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. The real question is why are Iraqi civilians killed in10 times greater |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. I like that one... "collateral damage" |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
79. Are you trying to say we ARE backing one side? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #79 |
118. The death squads around the Interior Ministry |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #118 |
135. Why do you believe any attributions now? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. If the real question had only one dimension, the answer would be simple. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:00 PM Original message |
See post 11 last couple of paragraphs n/t |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. Nicely stated. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. dupe delete nt |
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demrabble (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. Absolutely! |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Two difference. The French resistance did not target French |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
78. Actually, the French Resistance went after Collaborators with vengence... |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. The level of violence directed toward civilians in Iraq by |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Actually, in some ways, the two occupations are comparable... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
100. "We aren't using outright slave labor for war production" -- wait awhile |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 06:40 AM Response to Reply #78 |
108. Good point. I thought of that and forgot to include it in my post. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
130. So who exactly is blowing up which market? |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. I don't think anyone knows that much, not even insurgents |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. I would tell you exactly, but that would give you the impression |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. There isn't only one bogeyman |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Wow, our "covert state and the permanent-war bureaucracy". |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #145 |
158. You needn't put it such absolute terms. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. what would the dalai lama say? |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
27. Everybody has that right, |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. Absolutely |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. Wow... MINUTEMEN rejoice as DU'er concedes moral high ground |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Interesting take. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:58 PM Original message |
I doubt that |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. oops dupe |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I'm sorry - at first I didn't get it. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. I'm arguing that |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I do not champion violence |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Is there not a difference |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
101. You're the one who argued all CIA agents should be outed. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
52. Apparently NOT! "Operation Arrowhead Strike Six " (wtf?) in full swing |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. What is the surge? |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. Wow, if she is so panicky over questioning imagine |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:32 AM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Yeah, what did they ever do without us? n/t |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #102 |
138. Are you serious? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
55. Do the Iraqi people have a right to resist foreign invaders? - Yes! they're now called insurgents... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. Of course they do, but they have been genocided and have nothing to defend themselves with. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Quite possibly true... |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. I would ask you the same. With the US occupation firmly in control, where indeed would they end up? |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #62 |
85. "hopeless." |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
63. The Iraqi people do. Iraqi people don't. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. heh - I was just about to say |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Majority of Iraqis -Shia as well as Sunni- support attacks on US troops. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #82 |
113. Could you post an excerpt, please? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I can't c&p from this 'puter, but will msg you after work w the |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. It depends |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. please see post 11, thanks n/t |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
68. Yes, but they have to greet them with flowers and chocolates first n/t |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
71. Yes, the same as we do were we illegally invaded based on lies about a nonexistent threat. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
74. Do they have the right to murder each other by the thousands? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:41 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. You are assuming that all Iraqis over there are the same... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #90 |
119. Great post! May I add... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
120. and it's hardly as if Iraq and Iraqis are unique in all this |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:35 AM Response to Reply #74 |
103. "Those people are animals, they need to be civilised, our occupation will save them" n/t |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. What's with the quotation marks? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #109 |
116. I think he's quoting King Leopold of Belgium |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
80. Yes they do, under international law. |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Really, IL allows them to suicide bomb each other |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I actually read the OP's question. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
121. maybe this will help |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:17 AM Response to Reply #121 |
160. I don't think that most of the stuff going on in Iraq |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:31 AM Response to Reply #87 |
159. Oh I thought we were talking about reality, sorry. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #159 |
166. May well be true but does the US presence help or exacerbate? |
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Sterling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
199. I think it probably does both. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Google "A Clean Break" |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:38 AM Response to Reply #86 |
104. You are talking about religious militias armed and supervised by the US, killing Sunnis |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
94. Yes n/t |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
112. Not only Iraq |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
122. do we? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
127. did the German people have the right to resist foreign invaders? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Thank you for finding a loophole in my question. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. intresting distinction |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #131 |
164. Sure |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
129. Yes. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
132. Evidence of false-flag terror conducted by coalition forces in Iraq |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
141. They have not only the right but the obligation to resist foreign invaders... however, |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
149. Yes...though I don't think that's the issue in Iraq |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. My problem is with the word "unleashed" |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #156 |
165. I don't disagree with that; I don't necessarily agree with that |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
154. Only if resistance = waving candy and flowers. n/t |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
161. Yes! And we have a right to get our troops out of where they don't belong. |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
162. As much as the Wolverines resisted the foreign contingent of invaders in Red Dawn. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #162 |
168. Except Patrick Swayze never blew up a a marketplace |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. It was a movie... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
169. It's a natural right |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. Who would you fight though? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
175. Rights don't exist |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Rights don't exist? |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. No |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. Universal Declaration of Human Rights |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. That's not a foundation |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. Please delete- duplicate |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. That is a document, not a basis |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Hey, you are way too philosophical for me. |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. It's different |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. If you want to believe that people are not born with rights, |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #185 |
197. Hence the resort to the Creator |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. That is the usual grasp |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #198 |
202. Excuse my sloppy categories |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
176. Absolutely! n/t |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
178. When are they going to put that asshole Tom DeLay in jail? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #178 |
205. Tom DeLay? Did somebody say... Tom DeLay? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:44 PM Original message |
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206. Cadshack... |
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