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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 07:53 PM Original message |
We all support impeachment. But here's my problem with "impeach right now no matter what" people |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. 2nd recommendation |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. have you watched... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Impeachment Is Ultimately A Political Act |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. No, but I have it taped. Does he outline feasibility, risks, possible results? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. Just watch it and you can answer your questions for yourself. It's also available |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. I'll listen to your arguments after you've watched it. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Do you watch CSPAN? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. We all feel that way. What does a failed impeachment do to solve any of that? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. It takes his attention away from the damage he is wreaking on the world |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Just like the current Congress investigations? How would impeachment be any different than those? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You mean the ineffective investigations? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Ah, so impeachment from the same Congress would be magically effective? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. As I said before, when the American people see the evidence, they will DEMAND |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. How will they see any evidence that hasn't been produced in investigations already? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Yes, executive privelidge isn't a defense in impeachment hearings - See the Nixon |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. You do understand that it takes |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Absolutely. |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Ok then, where are those 218 coming from? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. I don't know how any member will vote, but the vote will be very useful to know where |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. How many have this kind of significance? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Do you have a citation for that? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. This is at least the third time |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. I think impeachment gives the strongest case |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. well |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. No. There is no case directly on impeachment/EP |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
127. The Special prosecutor doesn't charge the President. The special prosecutor |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I Don't Mind Impeachment... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I think this time would be far different |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Why Would The Same People You Are Saying Are Enabling Bush Vote To Remove Him? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I believe that as soon as the American people see the evidence |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Why would any more evidence be produced than in the Congressional investigations? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Plus Bushco Gets To Mount A Defense... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. They are televised |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Nixon's administration was falling apart at the seams from prior investigations already |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. If There Was A Plebiscite |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Why would I know that? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It Wasn't Intended To Be A Trick Question |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. What evidence? List it. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
92. What evidence? While we know what he has been doing, there is |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. The problem is, the condition you are describing won't be solved by impeachment |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
105. You'll wind up waiting if the impeachment fails too. n/t |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Well thought out and nicely written - K&R |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't believe the "Off the Table" crowd understand impeachment or the people who support it. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Thank you for beautifully proving all my points in one post. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. You don't understand your own post? That's what I thought. i responded to |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Oh please. If you need a spoon-feeding, here you go |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. They is some bad peoples. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Wouldn't you say all the listed behaviors are consistent with the thinking that led to the Iraq war? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I'm not sure I understand where the empowering bush* part comes from |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Have you read Bernie Sanders's views on impeachment? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. you reckon |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. :-) I don't know for sure! But I trust Bernie not to be a coward Constitution hater |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. So you are in agreement that Sanders shouldn't introduce articles of impeachment? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Sanders is a Senator. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. As I said, we agree that Sanders has no duty to initiate impeachment. |
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dolo amber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
119. Whaaaaaaat??!! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. No. 'They' are not spouting total bullshit. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Thanks for continuing to prove my list is exactly correct |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Your analogy is seriously flawed. For one thing, Pre-emptive war is offensive, |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. That would be fine, if I said preemptive war is the same as impeachment |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. You don't have the facts, you are relying on leaders you trust to form your opinions. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. I watched Bill Moyers |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. How about a successful attempt? Or a vote? You know, considering how unsuccessful |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. I'd love to see a successful impeachment |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's exactly the same with the other side - lol. Funny how you don't mention that. |
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asthmaticeog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. Kicked. Recommended. All that. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. No kidding |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
32. man oh man |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I don't see how a failed impeachment holds anyone to account |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. if you can't see that on your own I sure as hell can't help you sorry |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. OK, explain it to me. What does a failed impeachment -do-? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. NO you explain to us pro impeachment folk how you just know it would fail |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. List the Senators that would vote to convict |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I guess evidence or a trial in the senate doesn't matter huh |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Not if you don't have the votes, no. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. For the last time, we can get the votes in the Senate IF we build a good case! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 06:08 AM Response to Reply #76 |
93. That hope is contrary to all evidence |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. And given that, it is even less likely that they will without a solid case |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
116. They did'nt have enough votes to impeach Nixon, either |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. They had more than enough votes to start the impeachment inquiry. We don't |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Oh that's easy |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
108. I think you don't have an answer n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thanks again jpgray. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here's what I don't understand from the imaginary impeachment at some time crowd. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. How does a failed impeachment protect the Constitution? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Watch the Bill Moyers show. You say you have it. It will answer a number |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Which Constitutional issues am I not up to speed on? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. The ones discussed in the show. Your questions show you aren't informed. Get |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Why can't you explain which areas I'm wrong on? Is it impossible to say without the TV show? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. It's often not worth the time or energy to debate with the willfully ignorant. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. I don't believe its about how much time you have |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. think what you want. I don't care. n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
102. An impeachment process would shed |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. How would it do that? How would it be any different than current investigations? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-06-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #104 |
129. Coverage not buried on C-Span. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
58. Problem? Sorry, don't have time for problems |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. If we're going to build the guillotine, I want to be sure it doesn't go to waste |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
61. If you support impeachment, it has to start now or soon. There isn't much time left before the... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I support a successful impeachment. A failed one doesn't do a damn thing. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. I'd like to know what kind of timeline you envision. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Good points. Here are my answers |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. what does bush have to gain by going through impeachment procedings? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Then why are Al Gore and Bernie Sanders, hardly Constitution-hating wallflowers, opposed to it? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. i'm not buying the field day... honestly in politics if accusations are made, they usually |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Great points. Let's never forget I could be totally wrong about this |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. well i commend you for having the most civil thread on the topic, it's disheartening |
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eggman67 (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Another part of it |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Yep, but sadly it wouldn't be put to rest. The Dems would be blamed for failing to impeach |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
70. I always knew you were a troll! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Maybe a sigpic of adorable arctic bears would facilitate these deep-cover ops |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. yup |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. We're gonna have to send some prostitutes after him |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Don't forget to send Pimpbot 5000 too! |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
81. B--b- but!!! *sputter*!!! *foam* |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #81 |
95. I'm with you on that |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
99. are we actually getting any good legislation passed? is bush going to help average americans |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. They passed student loan reform |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. so this is all to make Bush look bad when he vetos it...so not more productive than |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
83. Ohhh, don't fret about it. No one is going to Impeach anyone...it's off the table. |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
90. Sorry. Astonishingly ironic post, starting with title. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Actually, you can see evidence of most of my points in this thread alone |
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Magrittes Pipe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
96. You are rational, and actual results matter more to you than asinine breast-beating. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
115. ROFL nt |
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nickgutierrez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
101. Dead right. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
118. It's just that the Dems are not attacking on any fronts -- any that aren't just pablum. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
120. 1, 3 & 4 are for me so similar as to form an alloy; my agreement is with 2... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
126. Sorry, but this was exactly the sort of situation for which the forefathers gave us the |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-06-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. How does a failed impeachment change the status quo? |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-05-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
128. come on |
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buddhamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-06-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #128 |
131. yippee... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-06-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. There's evidence of it right here in this thread |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-07-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. ahh... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-06-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
130. I agree with your first three... |
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