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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:16 PM Original message |
House Debate on (Senate) FISA Bill Thread #2 |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks, and could you put #2 in title so no one gets confused? nt |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Added, thanks! n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. thanks. This is HOT |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Conyers says he offended by Repug saying he Hated Pres and AG. Good for HIM |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. He did it nicely----NOT jump up like Repugs have done and say STRICK those works! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. None of the Dems who have spoken have say AYE have they? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. who is this? "interum measure" and will support it. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. What kind of a majority do we NEED here, anyway? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Just a simple majority, I think...unless somebody pulled a dirty trick. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
66. I really do not know. How do we find out? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. I really wish I knew. It's a debacle. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. Conyers talking about "reverse targeting." |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. can we get some recs? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. unfortunate names for Congress people - Flake |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. was he a Dem or Repug? (He will support the bill) |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. repug |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. Jay Inslee-go, guy! He's definitely not a Gonzo fan! nt |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. "don't pass this bill" he says. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. Jay Inslee...telling it like it is! |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. What happened to Republicans wanting less government? hmm? |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. K and R |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. In the U.S. we don't let Alberto Gonzales intercept our email conversations without some degree |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't trust Gonzales....nothing comparative about it |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Why this sudden non-stop terra? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. They really truly do believe that, isn't that sad and scary? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. REC. and another fear monger is up |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yo Vito! Gonna have to crack some terrorist heads...the muthers. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Original message |
Anyone want to take bets that Peter F*ckin' King gets up and |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. "9/11!" (Somebody knock back a shot....) n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. I'm jusht aboutt out of Crowwwwn Royal......here.... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 - ARRGGH! nt |
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Terri S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
27. ah, the 9/11 tie in... had to happen... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. but it's OK to lose a parent in a "war" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. 'Funny' that never comes up, isn't it. nt |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yeah, real funny |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. It's almost the same number isn't it? At least 3,000 children are without |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. he doesn't care.... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Thornberry up lying his ass off. . . .n/t |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. Give us the power to stop Bush and Cheney from letting something |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
32. how can these repubs live with themselves?.. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I hate republicans. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I think that if Repuglicans actually read and THINK about this bill, they would do |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. ha ha, A Texan Repug says nothing about checks and balances have NOT |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. "closes the gap"----HA HA he has the WH talking points. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. It's no longer about principles with these people. It's about power and control. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. DEm Scott======bet he does NOT support the way he is talking |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. Except for Reyes, all the Dems speaking are speaking STRONGLY against it. |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. I just worry about the blue dog dimicrats |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Same here IChing. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Question. Is this going to be a straight up and down vote or will 2/3 apply? nt |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I don't even see how the hell they can HAVE a vote..there are about 14 people there |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Where are they all? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Who the fuck knows? Out having a drink somewhere, maybe?? |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. After listening to all this, I need one too! |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. It really is way beyond bizarre, isn't it? Trading incoherent babbling soundbites. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. They'll all come creeping in when it's time to vote. It's almost a mystery when that happens. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
113. a post downstream says simple Majority NOt under suspension rules. |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. All the Repugs have is fear, fear, and 9-11 and George Bush says so. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. Don't forget to recommend. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. checks and balances? what are those? how would anyone in Congress know? |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Bobby Scott is saying what the data mining propblem we both see |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. K & R |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. if shit was gold, they could balance the budget right this second |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. LOL-I am drunk-I can laugh at that-how pathetic!!! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Send thee to the DUzies! And grow tons of mushrooms with the leftovers! |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. Jeez I don't |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. Republicans think the Bill of Rights is a Bill of Goods. An inconvenience. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
60. Bobby Scott, Dem is correcting a REpug. te he. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
61. Did Bush's Secrecy Endangered America? YES! Hiding Truth, Spying, FISA, and Trust Gonzo. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
62. Jane Harman . . she's good |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. And she's for it. Not so good IMHO. eom |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Not from what I just heard. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. She said they will deal with changes before it sunsets. That means she's voting for it. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. She fooled me also. thanks for having a clear head. I was getting excited and not listening. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:38 PM Original message |
I was too and then she stopped me cold in my tracks. She might still vote against it but |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. The good thing, the Progressives that voted against it yesterday will vote against it tonight. eom |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
97. Harman is DLC, she'll vote for it. n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
64. Well, gee, I thought they were out of the US...guess I made a "mistake" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Harman: violation of constitutional rights, need checks and balances, |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. Bobby Scott is not a very persuasive speaker |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
71. Jane Harman Dem. MY GOD---she actually is OPPOSING THIS BILL |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. No, she isn't. She said they'd deal with it before it sunsets. She's voting for it. eom |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. She also said the Senate made a mistake last night, so I'm confused now. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. OR, maybe she knows it's going to pass and she hopes to correct it before it sunsets??? eom |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. I did a double take as I typed. I was too excited.Damm. You are Right. |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Harman is for it - my understanding. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
72. Why are "we poised to repeat the Senate's mistake"? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
75. Heather Wilson: I've got a need for more cowbell, err, I mean spying. |
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Sonicmedusa (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I was thinking the same thing. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Original message |
Heather Wilson is a fool |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
83. tool |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. Heather WILSON, Repug!----GAP, GAP, TERROR TERRor woman on board! |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
78. Damn, I think Jane Harman is against it? n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. You thought wrong. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. She fooled me----right up until her last few words. She will do a AYE |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. No. She is "we are in a vise" person who will vote for it even though it |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
80. Could someone smack these people upside their heads, |
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buzzard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. "Reasonably believed to be outside the US" right oops I thought you were from |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
89. Yes - let's clap for trash |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
93. Time for #3? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
95. Heather Wilson just lied out of both her ears and her nostrils |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
98. another Dem just said NO. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
99. Instead of getting rid of an AG like Gonzales, he gets more power |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
100. anyone know if we need a simple majority or 2/3 like last night?? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Watt, Dem saying Terrorists win if we give up our Con. rights tonight by voting for his bill. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. now, jan Sharkowski. She is good (Dem). talking of giving up our Liberties. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. simple majority, without further changes. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. THANK YOU for this INFO. I missed the beginning. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Why am I not surprised? eom |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. BTW! Thanks for the information! eom |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
101. Rep Watt brought up a primary sticking point = AG Gonzales. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
106. Man-the Dems have SO outmatched the Repubs |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
107. Cohen is up and he is good...yeah |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. He and others have said tonight they do NOT trust Gonzo |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. RE: Cohen : It's nice to really have a firebrand Tennessean |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
108. Someone start thread 3, please. I'm horribly lazy...thanks :) |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Thread #3 here: |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
114. ***** House Debate on (Senate) FISA Bill Thread #3 ***** |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
115. Dem. Joe. S. Navy bet. sounds good so far. he will do a NO. YEah |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
117. Repug saying he heard a lot of hate tonight but he talks Hate. Whow! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Liberal Dems, Janet Reno, children burning. whow. what a NUT case! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. That was frightening |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
120. Waco and Ruby Ridge? Tiahirt is one Weirdo Wacko! n/t |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. Ruby Ridge happened under bush 1, but they always forget that. They blame |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
122. Hoyer up. I wonder where he is going? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. I hope the 'left' way! nt |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-04-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
124. I have YET to be told why the spying can't be done WITHOUT a warrant... |
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