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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:40 PM
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Washington Post: Ouster by the People
Polls showing President Bush's approval ratings in the 20s and 30s and a New York Times survey last month reporting that people across the country are eager for an end to the current administration suggest that this nation has a problem it's going to have to live with for the next 17 months -- a failed presidency that won't reestablish its credibility with a national majority.

The political argument against Bush's continuing tenure is not frivolous. There are good reasons to see him as a failed president whose remaining time in office will be unproductive at best and destructive to the country's well-being at worst. But given the constitutional rules by which the presidency operates, there is no serious prospect of removing him from office.

A fine solution would be a Nixon-style resignation, but anyone who thinks that Bush and Vice President Cheney would give in to such a demand is dreaming. With no serious threat of impeachment looming, Bush and Cheney can afford to dismiss calls for their departure as the outcries of political extremists. Instead, the president, determined to stay the course, declares that his strategy in Iraq needs more time to work, that the many charges of abuse of power are unsubstantiated, and that, as with Harry Truman, who also lost his hold on the public in the last two years of his presidency, history will vindicate him.

It's enough to make people think about a constitutional amendment for removing a president other than by impeachment or because of incapacity, as is now provided for under the 25th Amendment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/03/AR2007080301952.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:42 PM
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1. What a novel idea. I'm all for it. This might quiet the anti-impeachment idealists. nt
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:47 PM
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3. We can call the new amendment to the constitution "Dick's Law" after its first
target.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:46 PM
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2. It's amazing that so few have even called for them to resign for the good of the nation
while it is true they would not heed such calls, it would be the right thing to do.

And yes, there should be other ways of ridding ourselves of a regime, other than a crime (although their list of crimes is certainly sufficient).

Why not simply a 2/3's vote with new elections within 6 months?
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:52 PM
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4. Its not just
the 17 months left of * admin that will hurt the country, he will continue to do damage for the next 20 or 30 years by proxy through his court nominees, his borrow and spend policies and his foreign policies that generate so much hate against America.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:56 PM
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5. He will also do damage to the country in the future by virtue of the precedents he is setting
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-04-07 11:59 PM
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6. 60% vote in both houses of Congress is a pretty high standard
I do like the idea of putting it into the hands of the people though.

Another option is the no-confidence vote that many countries have. It doesn't remove the leader, but they usually do the right thing and resign after they receive one.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:09 AM
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7. The sad thing is that more Dem Senators would vote to make the flag a
sacred/religious object and put that in the constitution than they would protect us from fascists like bush/cheney and all the others who should have been hounded from office (LBJ for one... genocidal maniac)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 12:25 AM
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8. Arnold has WHAT?
Are they joking?
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