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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:19 PM
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The Pentagon has lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles
and pistols given to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005, according to a new government report, raising fears that some of those weapons have fallen into the hands of insurgents fighting U.S. forces in Iraq.

"They really have no idea where they are," said Rachel Stohl, a senior analyst at the Center for Defense Information who has studied small-arms trade and received Pentagon briefings on the issue. "It likely means that the United States is unintentionally providing weapons to bad actors."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/05/AR2007080501299_pf.html
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:20 PM
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1. well isn' that special
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:21 PM
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2. bad actors ? strange comparison, mabye evil insurgents?????
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:26 PM
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12. I thought they went to Iraq, not Hollywood. (n/t)
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:22 PM
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3. this is astounding
but not as astounding as the plan to give weapons to the militias if they promise to fight the "right" people. Then they want us to be impressed when they find a cache of weapons?! My plan would have been to guard the borders and keep weapons out but, you know, this plan to make sure everyone has a weapon is almost as good. :sarcasm:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:22 PM
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5. think about it, that's a SHITLOAD of guns....!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:25 PM
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11. Right ....
It's a lot of weapons.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:22 PM
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4. no worries...we'll make more!!
:grr:
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 08:47 PM
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6. Excuse me, where do you people think there was an AK shortage in Iraq before?
AK's are the least of the US' problems. All the US probably managed to do was drive the price down on the black market for mint condition AK's a little.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:14 PM
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10. Very true. nt
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:02 PM
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7. So what, there're 50 million rifles in Iraq. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:04 PM
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8. One thing is for certain: the "good guys" didn't get them.
These weapons, like the tons of lost plastic explosives, are being used against our troops.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:13 PM
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60 bodies in pick up in baquba, missing rifles,
mortars in the green zone --

so will all this figure in the report that betrayus will give?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:13 PM
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9. I'd like the Ladies'/officers model AK like Osama BL carries. nt
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 09:48 PM
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13. Like they care where they end up
As long as they are being used to kill the locals, or even our troops, they consider that a prime investment.

You know, since they are just handing them out to random people, maybe they can give me a few and a bunch of boxes of ammo. I'm sure I could put them to better use than the random insurgents they're giving them too :evilgrin:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:00 PM
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14. And I'm not permitted to buy a new here inthe US -- hows that for freedom.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:04 PM
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15. Bad actors?
We should only be so lucky that someone like Paris Hilton gets a hold of one of these. :eyes:

Let's give them to some good actors like Kevin Spacey or Susan Sarandon.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:45 PM
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16. And as of 9/10/01 per Rummy they lost 2 trillion dollars, too. nt
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:50 PM
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17. looks like Blackwater needed some weapons-somebody's making cold hard cash....nt
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 10:59 PM
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18. Worst case scenario...
They probably didn't leave the good ol' USA

Which leads me to these questions...with RFID, barcodes, and all this security of ordnance and weapons etc, the DoD can't keep track of them?

Or was this an inside job? Leading to what?
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:31 PM
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19. They didn't come from the USA, they came from eastern Europe.
There are very, very few actual AK-47's in the United States, and AFAIK no actual NFA Title 2/Class III restricted AK's are manufactured in this country whatsoever.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 02:39 PM
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20. awww man... at least share some of them with us
it's amazing how much cool free stuff the iraqis get handed to them and "lost" -- stuff us americans have to pay real money for!:sarcasm:
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