"See in you in the camps."

Uh, yeah. Let's round up the best and brightest folks in America and stick them in detention camps built by a corporation known for taking shortcuts to save themselves money, and place them under the guard of the most corrupt and stupid people we can find. They'd need the smarter ones out on the street trying to round up the insurgents.

That's bound to be a raging success.

As I pointed out in another thread, the FIRST duty of any POW is escape. And if they started doing something like this, it would be, in fact, declaring war against a sizeable chunk of the citizens of the United States.

They'd REALLY have a tiger by the tail. And, what's more, they'd never see it coming.

I mean, if they were going to start rounding up Freepers or Fundies, they'd have it made. They have no talent for thinking outside the box. There are far too many of US who can do little else. Given half the opportunity, we'll take over the damned camps and they'll have to strategize on the fly.

We are talking about the same nitwits who have yet to figure out how to get at Iraq's oil, despite spending billions of dollars and sacrificing world opinion to do it.

If they're not careful, they'll kick our asses until we win.

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See you in the camps.

;)

So I'll see you there!

If they did take shortcuts, they basically handed armories to us...I wonder if that was such a good idea

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you know, to distract the guards while you escape

It keeps me going to hear your perspective and helps me not give in to despair. I'm sure I'm not the only one, either.

On a serious note, however, I wish you'd mull over what keeps going through my mind (and probably yours too):

I wonder what the rest of the world could be thinking, as they look with horror on the demise of our once-great nation, especially lately? Since other countries in the world have a more truly free press than we do, they've known all along (like some here have) what monsters we have at the helm, but I've often wondered if they have any solutions to this. There's not much help they can give since those in control are so lawless, so international courts would do no good; these thugs wouldn't submit to any legal form of power, as witnessed by how they've repeatedly thumbed their noses at the rest of the world. Plus the righwingers have been badmouthing the U.N. for at least 40 years now and it has taken its toll. I keep hoping in my dreams that some former member of the admin brave enough, or someone with nothing else to lose (this sounds terrible, but like they're terminally ill or something), could get to speak out publicly about what's really been going on. The only reason we know as much as we do now if that people like Paul O'Neil and John Dean and John Diulio and Paul Craig Roberts and others - all conservatives - have been brave enough to candidly paint a picture for us. Thank God for them and for the journalists we have left who can and do tell the truth to those who will listen.

Now I understand MUCH better what it must have been like to have been living here or some other countries as the 3rd Reigh took over Europe.

Edited to change an "S" to an "N" and other little things.

the people overseas and elsewhere are actually thinking about what's going on. I communicate with people from all over on a regular basis, but we just don't discuss that sort of thing much. It's something of an unspoken agreement, really.

There's just so much tied up in all of it.

I get a better perspective sometimes from the international posters HERE than I do anywhere else.

think???

This seemed like a good thread to post this. I hope that's okay.


The Atom Bomb! Nuclear Warfare! Weapons of Mass Destruction!

I often start my day with reading On this Day in History.This morning the reference to World War 2 caught my eye. Sixty-two years ago today, the United States dropped the world's first ever atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan.

Here's how President Truman described it:

Harry S. Truman, 1945: “The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, in so far as possible, the killing of civilians. But that attack is only a warning of things to come. If Japan does not surrender, bombs will have to be dropped on her war industries and, unfortunately, thousands of civilian lives will be lost. I urge Japanese civilians to leave industrial cities immediately, and save themselves from destruction.”


A MILITARY BASE? Surely the President knew that "thousands of civilians lives" were already lost. Yet, three days later, a second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki.

History will continue to judge whether President Truman did the right thing in ordering the use of nuclear weapons. That issue won't be settled here.

Talk of nuclear weapons again makes the front pages of our newspapers. Will North Korea use nuclear weapons? Iran?

I'm a firm believer in the maxim that those who are ignorant of history are bound to repeat it. That's why I'm writing today. Before we move carelessly onward, we need to look back. Look back at the capacity humankind has for destruction.

This link will take you back to 1946. At the one-year anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima, the War Department produced a short movie meant to be shown to the armed forces only. Now that it is available for all to see, we must look back so that our moving ahead is guided by wisdom, not hubris and bravado.

http://www.massachusettsobserver.com/Hiroshima.htm

I'm more familiar with the German Front of the war, but I heard that we didn't need to drop the bombs- surrender was already in the works.

145,000 people killed on the first one, and who knows how many in Nagasaki. All so we could show the world we had the bomb.

Ironic that one of the fools at Los Alamos passed the secrets of the Plutonium bomb to the USSR to, in his mind, preserve the balance of power. Some much for our nuclear hegemony :sarcasm:

There is always a danger in underestimating the enemy.

I know some extremely intelligent people, who for whatever reason, vote Repub. Every election.

I recently had the opportunity to have dinner with one of my best friends from high school. It was the first time I'd seen her in probably over 20 years. She has a very successful career (in insurance) and, in her spare time, serves as president of her city council. She attends a UCC church. It was a complete surprise to me when the conversation turned to politics and she announced that she is a Republican. I said something like, "You're kidding, right?" She assured me that she was serious. She went on to say that Bush is an idiot, but will vote Republican anyway.

She is hardly of the Sgt. Schultz variety, and it would be a sad mistake to underestimate her.

You cannot expect an American to encarcerate a fellow citizen. That's why we have all these UN and Nato bases all over the country. The troops to run the camps will be foreign and paid well.

Help keep us all locked up pretty well.