I'm a Democrat and I am PROUD!

I have grown weary of all the drive-by Threads where the Democrats are being trashed as if it were straight out of Fox News Entertainment.

The freepers have triumphed at DU.

I know many feel the strain as I.

I understand why so many have sought out other Boards. I rarely stay on DU beyond 30 minutes max......maybe the DU Rules need to be less just and more goal oriented. I don't know the answer really, but I do grieve for days of past....Where like minds actually processed Democratic issues verses oneliner slander threads.

are you sure you can be a part of a real solution? Why does this outlaw president have any support at all among elected democrats? Problems cannot be solved without knowing where problems lie.

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In many ways, they were undermined by the leadership. That doesn't eviscerate those resisting Democrats' intentions or actions in voting against the bill. They deserve support for their stance.

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Senate DEMOCRATS who Voted NO:

Dodd (D-Connecticut), Biden (D-Delaware), Akaka (D-Hawaii), Durbin (D-Illinois), Obama (D-Illinois), Cardin (D-Maryland), Kennedy (D-Massachusetts), Levin (D-Michigan), Stabenow (D-Michigan), Baucus (D-Montana), Tester (D-Montana), Reid (D-Nevada), Lautenberg (D-New Jersey), Menendez (D-New Jersey), Bingaman (D-New Mexico), Clinton (D-New York), Schumer (D-New York), Brown (D-Ohio), Wyden (D-Oregon), Reed (D-Rhode Island), Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island), Leahy (D-Vermont), Cantwell (D-Washington), Byrd (D-West Virginia), Rockefeller (D-West Virginia), Feingold (D-Wisconsin), Kohl (D-Wisconsin), and let’s not forget Sanders (I-Vermont)

House DEMOCRATS who Voted NO:

Abercrombie (D-Hawaii), Ackerman (D-New York), Allen (D-Maine), Andrews (D-New Jersey), Arcuri (D-New York), Baca (D-California), Baird (D-Washington), Baldwin (D-Wisconsin), Berkley (D-Nevada), Berman (D-California), Berry (D-Arkansas), Bishop (D- Georgia), Bishop (D-New York), Blumenauer (D-Oregon), Boucher (D-Virginia), Boyda (D-Kansas), Brady (D-Pennsylvania), Braley (D-Iowa), Brown, Corrine (D-Florida), Butterfield (D-North Carolina), Capps (D-California), Capuano (D-Massachusetts), Cardoza (D-California), Carnahan (D-Missouri), Carson (D-Indiana), Castor (D-Florida), Cleaver (D-Missouri), Clyburn (D-South Carolina), Cohen (D-Tennessee), Conyers (D-Michigan), Costello (D-Illinois), Courtney (D-Connecticut), Crowley (D-New York), Cummings (D-Maryland), Davis (D-California), Davis (D-Illinois), DeFazio (D-Oregon), DeGette (D-Colorado), DeLauro (D-Connecticut), Dicks (D-Washington), Dingell (D-Michigan), Doggett (D-Texas), Doyle (D-Pennsylvania), Ellison (D-Minnesota), Emanuel (D-Illinois), Engel (D-New York), Eshoo (D-California), Farr (D-California), Fattah (D-Pennsylvania), Filner (D-California), Frank (D-Massachusetts), Giffords (D-Arizona), Gillibrand (D-New York), Gonzalez (D-Texas), Green, Al (D-Texas), Green, Gene (D-Texas), Grijalva (D-Arizona), Gutierrez (D-Illinois), Hall (D-New York), Hare (D-Illinois), Harman (D-California), Hastings (D-Florida), Hinchey (D-New York), Hirono (D-Hawaii), Hodes (D- New Hampshire), Holden (D-Pennsylvania), Holt (D-New Jersey), Honda (D-California), Hooley (D-Oregon), Hoyer (D-Maryland), Inslee (D-Washington), Israel (D-New York), Jackson (D-Illinois), Jackson-Lee (D-Texas), Jefferson (D-Louisiana), Johnson (D-Georgia), Johnson, E. B. (D-Texas), Jones (D-Ohio), Kagen (D-Wisconsin), Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania), Kaptur (D-Ohio), Kennedy (D-Rhode Island), Kildee (D-Michigan), Kind (D-Wisconsin), Kucinich (D-Ohio), Langevin (D-Rhode Island), Larsen (D-Washington), Larson (D-Connecticut), Lee (D-California), Levin (D-Michigan), Lewis (D-Georgia), Loebsack (D-Iowa), Lofgren, Zoe (D-California), Lowey (D-New York), Lynch (D-Massachusetts), Mahoney (D-Florida), Maloney (D-New York), Markey (D-Massachusetts), Matsui (D-California), McCarthy (D-New York), McCollum (D-Minnesota), McDermott (D-Washington), McGovern (D-Massachusetts), McNerney (D-California), McNulty (D-New York), Meek (D-Florida), Meeks (D-New York), Michaud (D-Maine), Miller (D-North Carolina), Miller, George (D-California), Mollohan (D-West Virginia), Moore (D-Kansas), Moore (D-Wisconsin), Moran (D-Virginia), Murphy (D-Connecticut), Murphy, Patrick (D-Pennsylvania), Murtha (D-Pennsylvania), Nadler (D-New York), Napolitano (D-California), Neal (D-Massachusetts), Oberstar (D-Minnesota), Obey (D-Wisconsin), Olver (D-Massachusetts), Ortiz (D-Texas), Pallone (D-New Hampshire), Pascrell (D-New Hampshire), Pastor (D-Arizona), Payne (D-New Hampshire), Pelosi (D-California), Perlmutter (D-Colorado), Price (D-North Carolina), Rahall (D-West Virginia), Rangel (D-New York), Reyes (D-Texas), Rothman (D-New Jersey), Roybal-Allard (D-California), Ruppersberger (D-Maryland), Rush (D-Illinois), Ryan (D-Ohio), Sánchez, Linda T (D-California), Sanchez, Loretta (D-California), Sarbanes (D-Maryland), Schakowsky (D-Illinois), Schiff (D-California), Schwartz (D-Pennsylvania), Scott (D-Georgia), Scott (D-Virginia), Serrano (D-New York), Sestak (D-Pennsylvania), Shea-Porter (D-New Hampshire), Sherman (D-California), Sires (D-New Jersey), Slaughter (D-New York), Smith (D-Washington), Solis (D-California), Spratt (D-South Carolina), Stark (D-California), Stupak (D-Michigan), Sutton (D-Ohio), Tauscher (D-California), Thompson (D-California), Thompson (D-Mississippi), Tierney (D-Massachusetts), Towns (D-New York), Udall (D-Colorado), Udall (D-New Mexico), Van Hollen (D-Maryland), Velázquez (D-New York), Visclosky (D-Indiana), Wasserman-Schultz (D-Florida), Waters (D-California), Watson (D-California), Watt (D-North Carolina), Waxman (D-California), Weiner (D-New York), Welch (D-Vermont), Wexler (D-Florida), Woolsey (D-California), Wu (D-Oregon), Wynn (D-Maryland), Yarmuth (D-Kentucky)

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Yeah, let’s condemn ALL these people, the ones listed up there, because of THESE people, the ones listed below:

Senate DEMOCRATS who Voted YES:

Lincoln (D-Arkansas), Pryor (D-Arkansas), Feinstein (D-California), Salazar (D-Colorado), Carper (D-Delaware), Nelson (D-Florida), Inouye (D-Hawaii), Bayh (D-Indiana), Landrieu (D-Louisiana), Mikulski (D-Maryland), Klobuchar (D-Minnesota), McCaskill (D-Missouri), Nelson (D-Nebraska), Conrad (D-North Dakota), Casey (D-Pennsylvania), Webb (D-Virginia) – oh, and let’s NOT forget: Lieberman (I-Connecticut)

House DEMOCRATS who Voted YES:

Altmire (D-Pennsylvania), Barrow (D-Georgia), Bean (D-Illinois), Boren (D-Oklahoma), Boswell (D-Iowa), Boyd (D-Florida), Carney (D-Pennsylvania), Chandler (D-Kentucky), Cooper (D-Tennessee), Costa (D-California), Cramer (D-Alabama), Cuellar (D-Texas), Davis (D-Alabama), Davis, Lincoln (D-Tennessee), Donnelly (D-Indiana), Edwards (D-Texas), Ellsworth (D-Indiana), Etheridge (D-North Carolina), Gordon (D-Tennessee), Herseth Sandlin (D-South Dakota), Higgins (D-New York), Hill (D-Indiana), Lampson (D-Texas), Lipinski (D-Illinois), Marshall (D-Georgia), Matheson (D-Utah), McIntyre (D-North Carolina), Melancon (D-Louisiana), Mitchell (D-Arizona), Peterson (D-Minnesota), Pomeroy (D-North Dakota), Rodriguez (D-Texas), Ross (D-Arkansas), Salazar (D-Colorado), Shuler (D-North Carolina), Snyder (D-Arkansas),
Space (D-Ohio), Tanner (D-Tennessee), Taylor (D-Mississippi),
Walz (D-Minnesota), Wilson (D-Ohio)

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Let’s see… 208 members of the Democratic Party in Congress voted to uphold liberty and democracy in America, and 57 members of said party voted against that majority of Democrats. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to just disown them all, condemn the entire bunch of them; right?!? THEY are ALL just fucking traitors. Right?

Oh, and you know what? 229 members of the Republican Party in Congress voted to take away liberty and democracy, but hey, 2 members of that same party voted to uphold liberty and democracy against the majority of that party. Why don’t we, likewise, applaud that entire party as the new defenders of freedom and democracy? THEY are ALL freakin' patriots. Right?

Hey, if it works one way, it oughtta work in reverse, too.

END /:sarcasm:

I’m disgusted. And no, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular. I'm just disgusted in general.

ETA: And no, I'm not disgusted with our party, our Democrats in Congress. I'm disgusted with the blanket condemnation being issued by so many everywhere I go. In forums, on the radio, on TV... the Democrats are being blamed for this when it was the fucking Rethuglicans who did this, with the help of a small minority of Democrats who voted with them.

Doesn't matter what the majority of our party does, it seems. The Democrats are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. We applaud our party for being the "big tent" party, for being diverse. We've seen the Rethuglicans voting in lock-step, and have decried such tactics, yet we damn our own when they DON'T do exactly that.

We are eating our own here. :(

if you're unhappy with how your rep voted, get a hundred friends to phone and visit the idiot during recess. Be as civil as you can be, while making it clear you're about to spit venom.

Everyone is taking this as either we get our way or we will go home. It's like they forget that government is not black or white, either or yet they are doing exactly like the people they complain about, we want what we want and we want it now. Funny how republicans can spend 15 years screwing things up. Yet thats ignored and democratics are expected to "fix" everything thats screwed up in a few short months. Sure we all would like to see the democrats throw their weight around, but reality is we don't hold a veto proof majority. We do not have the option to shut down the government any longer, to many elderly and poor would suffer. Republicans on the other hand don't give a rats ass about the poor or the elderly so shutting down the government isn't a big deal to them. So flame away who cares? opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

Many here want that instant gratification....that McDonald's drive-thru window service and they want it NOW!

I really miss the days of healthy discussion with the pros's and cons of the issue threads. We still have a few now and then but they are so frequently high jacked by trash talk or my favorite...a HUGE PICTURE or long copy/paste article which destroys the convenient access to the threat...which is again, disruption of the discussion for the purpose of sabotage.


See post # 26 by Rodeodance as an example of copy/paste skills in a thread to high jack the theme of the post.

Translation: Anyone who disagrees with me is a freeper.

Now you've got it. Why is it that if we disagree we can't really be a Democrat? Sometimes it feels so hopeless. Peace, Kim

It appears you may of forgotten the honorable discussion days. I'm sorry to see that.

Some days it hardly seems like the Democratic Underground. Criticism is one thing, but some days it gets down-right nasty.

I am also a Democrat and I am also proud. Yes, you are not alone in your feeling that the board has been taken over by a very Anti-Democratic contingent.

I plan to stay a while though. I just use the ignore function a great deal.

I feel like I'm trying to have a family meeting where an intervention is needed. Do you have the same sensing aura? O8)

Because that "anti-Democratic" contingent just lost the rights that our relatives have died for for centuries. We have lost one of the greatest AMerican legacies, and it happened with thunderous appluse and the signatures of our own party on it. The leadership had our version of the vote need a 2/3 majority while the pukes only needed a majority...and we set the rules!

I'm glad it was more painless to some of you then the rest of us, but honestly...after this weekend, how can anyone say they are a "proud Democrat" after a knife was slipped between your ribs? How can they stand in this forum and cajole the others whose rights bleed from their open wounds...wounds largely inflicted by Democrats.

Or is the Constitution just a political football to be kicked around and many of us who are truly mad about this are crying over nothing but spilled milk?

This is what I'd like to see posted on DU's front page

Most of the posts you are so distressed, shocked, saddened, distraught, upset, and bummed out about do talk about taking action.

You just don't like the action they suggest taking.

There are some very unpleasant people here, and right on cue, they will jump all over you

:hug:

:hug:

perspectives of life :hug:

:thumbsup: :patriot:

:pals: :hug:

Most of these bashing threads say nothing of real substance, just angry tirades. With some of them, I wonder if the posters are really concerned with the issue or just trying to bash.

I miss the days of the past when you could celebrate the tasering of folks without those Fox News watching libruls gettin' in yer bizness, right Nursie?

:spray:

I was not fishing for any examples but since you wanted to show yourself..........We are grateful.


PLEASE EVERYONE....This is a fine example of when someone uses hateful, passive aggressive skills in their replies.

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" 16. Yer right! It's those damn librul Freepers!
I miss the days of the past when you could celebrate the tasering of folks without those Fox News watching libruls gettin' in yer bizness, right Nursie?

:hi: :toast:

Thanks for all your hard work in your corner of the world. That is the key to making things better. Glad to see you're not as discouraged as so many others are.

Julie--in the trenches for the long haul

Do you still go over to the other place? I have been absent....and feel guilty. I plan on making a daily visit as a new LN rule.

:pals: :hug: :loveya:

While there's lots of legitimate Democrats on DU who offer constructive criticism, and who are rightfully angry when the Democrats do something stupid, there's at least an equal amount of pretend-Democrats who concern troll the boards. Then the concern trolls, aided by the gullible, will praise and "ditto" each other's concern posts.
:banghead:

and the way they work hard to get Dems elected, raise money, get out the vote. I'm also proud that they are smart enough to follow the issues, understand what's going on in Congress and, unlike GOP followers, don't accept everything their party leaders do at face value.

I'm also proud of the great progress grassroots Dems have made in revitalizing the party, encouraging it to speak out on the issues, fight Bush and the GOP and do a better job of reaching out and regaining the voters it lost over the years.

I'm also proud of the exemplary work that grassroots Dems have done in shining a light on election theft and vote rigging, particularly in educating our leaders about the ways the GOP has used electronic voting and "caging". The entire initiative came directly from grassroots Dems, who had a difficult, uphill job in educating Dem leaders about the problems and how to avoid them.

I'm glad I belong to a party where members are allowed to dissent and make their voices heard. Its the only party major party in the US where it can be done.

The thing that makes the Democratic Party great is that it can still operate as a "bottom up" organization - one where those on the front lines still pay enough attention to issues and utilize every opportunity to educate those at the top, demanding only the best from our Party as a whole.

We have a lot of work ahead of us and it won't get accomplished if Dem leaders tell everyone to just shut up and donate. Our party is a success because its leaders have the capacity to listen, learn and respond to those it represents. That should never stop.

Thank you very much. :patriot:

it means in difficult times, its not just our right, but our duty to set our leaders straight. If we don't criticize them now, the voters will do it on election day.

I feel your passion today.O8) :thumbsup: :hi:

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Pelosi has taken the First step to Right the FISA Wrong----Lets all help her:
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1525185#1525185
1525185, Pelosi has taken the First step to Right the FISA Wrong----Lets all help her:
Posted by rodeodance on Mon Aug-06-07 10:17 AM

I could not find anything specific that Reid has done so far:


CONTACT SPEAKER PELOSI: http://www.speaker.gov /

………..Bush had secretly authorized warrantless wiretapping after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The administration agreed in January to obtain warrants from a FISA court and pressed Congress to change the law.

In a letter to the House Judiciary Committee, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said "many provisions of this legislation are unacceptable." The speaker, who voted against the bill, asked the committee to draft a new bill "as soon as possible after Congress reconvenes."

The law expires in six months, but Pelosi said she did not think "the American people will want to wait that long before corrective action is taken." Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid also promised to revisit the law, which has provoked widespread outrage from civil liberties groups who said it would impinge on Americans' privacy.

"A campaign of fear and misinformation has spread on Capitol Hill that needs to be stopped," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union, which opposed the new law.

………
The fight begins Today!! Contact you Congress-critters regarding NEW FISA LAW.

WE HAVE TO BE RELENTLESS!!
MOST are in their home states now. Suggest contact them there---write/call/fax


Thank your Senators who upheld the Constitution.
And write to your Congress- critters your concerns about stepping on the constitution!—contact Republicans and Democrats alike

Contact Senators:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Contact Representatives:

http://www.house.gov/writerep /

House Leadership:
http://www.house.gov/house/orgs_pub_hse_ldr_www.shtml

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Links:
Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Bush Not Satisfied - Demands Further Capitulation
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1525122#1525122
1525122, Bush Not Satisfied - Demands Further Capitulation
Posted by kpete on Mon Aug-06-07 10:09 AM

Monday, August 06, 2007
Bush Not Satisfied - Demands Further Capitulation

From His Signing Statement:

While I appreciate the leadership it took to pass this bill, we must remember that our work is not done. This bill is a temporary, narrowly focused statute to deal with the most immediate shortcomings in the law.

When Congress returns in September the Intelligence committees and leaders in both parties will need to complete work on the comprehensive reforms requested by Director McConnell, including the important issue of providing meaningful liability protection to those who are alleged to have assisted our Nation following the attacks of September 11, 2001.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070805.html
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-08-05-FISA_N.htm?csp=1
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Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject ACLU Condemns Senate for Passing Spy Law Changes
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1524521#1524521
1524521, ACLU Condemns Senate for Passing Spy Law Changes
Posted by marmar on Mon Aug-06-07 08:09 AM

ACLU Condemns Senate for Passing Spy Law Changes (8/4/2007)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: media@dcaclu.org

WASHINGTON – The American Civil Liberties Union today condemned the House and Senate for bowing to pressure from the Bush administration and rushing to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The administration lobbied heavily to alter the legislation before Congress recessed. The White House pushed for sweeping changes to the spy law after a FISA court judge recently rejected its use of wide-scale, untargeted surveillance. The bill was passed in the Senate by a vote of 60 to 28, and the House is poised to take up the same legislation late tonight.

“We are deeply disappointed that the president’s tactics of fearmongering have once again forced Congress into submission,” said Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU. “That a Democratically-controlled Senate would be strong-armed by the Bush administration is astonishing. This Congress may prove to be as spineless in standing up to the Bush Administration as the one that enacted the Patriot Act or the Military Commissions Act.”

The legislation that passed would allow for the intelligence agencies to intercept – without a court order – the calls and emails of Americans who are communicating with people abroad, and puts authority for doing so in the hands of the attorney general. No protections exist for Americans whose calls or emails are vacuumed up, leaving it to the executive branch to collect, sort, and use this information as it sees fit.

“It seems that political cover is more important to our senators than the rights and privacy of those they represent,” added Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. “The administration is on the verge of reviving a warrantless wiretapping program even broader than the illegal one it conducted before. Though lawmakers claim these changes are temporary, we’ve just witnessed their lack of backbone today and, unfortunately, may soon see it again. Luckily, the sunset expires in the midst of primary season – so the voters will be able to keep lawmakers at their word.”

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/31194prs20070804.html

Edit to add names and links:

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject the 41
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1515896#1516019
1516019, the 41
Posted by Snazzy on Sat Aug-04-07 10:14 PM

http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2007&rollnumber=836

Altmire
Barrow
Bean
Boren
Boswell
Boyd (FL)
Carney
Chandler
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Cuellar
Davis (AL)
Davis, Lincoln
Donnelly
Edwards
Ellsworth
Etheridge
Gordon
Herseth Sandlin
Higgins
Hill
Lampson
Lipinski
Marshall
Matheson
McIntyre
Melancon
Mitchell
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Rodriguez
Ross
Salazar
Shuler
Snyder
Space
Tanner
Taylor
Walz (MN)
Wilson (OH)

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Senate Roll Call:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Thank these 16 Democrats for giving Bush expanded authority to eavesdrop without a warrant.
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3425605#3425605
3425605, Thank these 16 Democrats for giving Bush expanded authority to eavesdrop without a warrant.
Posted by ProSense on Fri Aug-03-07 11:34 PM


Lincoln (D) Yes
Pryor (D) Yes
Feinstein (D) Yes
Salazar (D) Yes
Carper (D) Yes
Nelson (D) Yes
Inouye (D) Yes
Bayh (D) Yes
Landrieu (D) Yes
Mikulski (D) Yes
Klobuchar (D) Yes
McCaskill (D) Yes
Nelson (D) Yes
Conrad (D) Yes
Casey (D) Yes
Webb (D) Yes

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CONTACT SPEAKER PELOSI: http://www.speaker.gov /

Its too late to undo the damage.

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Goal oriented, there's a thought. Thanks for your post, I'm still a Democrat even when some in the party piss me off.

Thanks for doing your part to elevate the level of discourse. :eyes:

Try again please....:shrug:

Think about it for a minute. I'm sure it'll come to you...

You want to date me right? :loveya:

... wanting to *change* to *improve* the party. They mendaciously maintain that being a Democrat means standing pat.

That includes my entire state delegation in the House and Senate.

I'm not proud of our representatives right now. I haven't been since the war funding bill, but I kept an open mind and let this play out.

No more.

No more marginalized left. You've taken our votes for granted, knowing that we won't vote republican.

No more calls for patience. We don't have much left for them to take from us, other than our lives.

No more apologies. They work for us, and if they don't, we don't have a functional gov't, and we need to change the rules.

No more knives in the back in the name of being "tough on terror." Giving * free reign is NOT tough on terror.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me with facts that my view of the situation is incorrect.

The time for forgiveness is over. These are our lives, our world at stake.

starting a new thread on the subject.:woohoo:

I had a good idea yesterday about how some people were taking Bush seriously as a threat, and others were content to believe this will all be over 2009.

When more information came out about the FISA thing, it became clear that we had a bigger problem. we seem to have people in our party that are ok with what Bush wants, and that scares me. It scares me even more that procedure was not used to block it.

A sad state of affairs.

The Democratic party remains the most effective vehicle available to elevate our concerns into action or law. I'm always proud of my association with our coalition of interests against Bush and his republicans; those of which choose to organize under the Democrats' banner.

they have a perfect right to post these comments of course. Just starts to seem childish after a while, all the namecalling.

But I wouldn't call them freepers.

What some of them are is our version of a freeper. A lefty freeper if you will.

I too am a proud Democrat. Says it right on my bumper sticker.

And I didn't get these folks elected with any illusions as to what they'd be able to do with the barest of majorities. We elected to many blue dogs for that.

And I also didn't help get them elected in 2006 only to shout "vote the bums out!" in 2008. I'm cool with electing different Dems if people think it can be done, but if we end up with a Republican majority again, I will NOT be happy.

Recommended.

they've proven that time and time again. I no longer have any faith in their ability to lead our party in Congress and plan to keep the pressure on for them to be replaced as leaders.

some of the things done in the name of my country. I am also a proud Democrat even though I'm not always proud of others who call themselves Democrats.

:dem:

Thank you, liberalnurse! :yourock:

and you're gullible - or grossly naive at best...