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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:56 PM
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Who can tell me what's wrong with this Reuters story "Climate bill shaves $533 bln off economy"??
Climate bill shaves $533 bln off economy

By Tom Doggett
Aug 6, 2007

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Senate bill to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions would raise energy prices and also reduce American economic output by more than half a trillion dollars over two decades, according to a government report released on Monday.

Congress is expected to consider climate legislation this fall that would fight global warming. Many businesses worry the U.S. economy would suffer under a measure to impose tough mandatory cuts in emissions.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3452786


Please give the whole thing a read, it's not very long.

This kind of shit pissed me off. Is Tom Doggett just a bad reporter, or is he a closet denier?

Without some basic context, this story is nothing more than fear mongering.

The missing and all-important context is:

1. What proportion of the US economy does 533B represent over the course of 20 years? I suspect it's very little.

2. What is the expected cost of doing nothing about global warming? That could be extrapolated from the Stern report, surely.

SHAME ON REUTERS AND TOM DOGGETT FOR PRODUCING A SHODDY PIECE OF FEAR-MONGERING WHICH WILL SERVE ONLY TO INCREASE IGNORANCE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 08:58 PM
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1. ABC is as bad as Fox
The hits just keep on coming.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:05 PM
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2. Not to mention all the NEW economic sectors that will pop up.
Alternative energy companies, energy consultants and contractors, vehicle manufacturers....

This doesn't mean the economy comes to a halt - it just means that oil companies won't be getting their usual share.

Ergo, the Tom Doggett's of the world.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:06 PM
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4. exactly.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:06 PM
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3. I also hate it when they say "will raise energy prices". Can't the god damn
corporations take a tiny bit less so the rest of us can stay alive? It is always assumed, automatically that corporate profits cannot take a hit, that the consumers will pay or jobs will be lost. I hate that garbage.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:11 PM
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8. Less demand = lower prices
Unless that "law" is repealed, there's no way that energy prices go up.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:07 PM
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5. US GDP is 13.13 trillion or 13,130 billion
so, for 20 years and a growth rate of 2%, the total is 319,024 billion making 533 billion into .16 percent.

The other question is that regulation creates jobs for regulators and presumably creates investment in new (less carbon intensive) technology and so on, which should have a positive impact.

I pointed that out in my business class. One chapter talked about the costs to business because of government regulation. Another one talked about all the jobs created in the exciting and dynamic advertising industry. I said 'why isn't advertising considered a cost, and why don't they talk about the jobs created and lives saved due to regulation?'

Also, another question. When he says 'government report' is that 'Bush administration' (i.e. a partisan report) or is it CBO?
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:23 PM
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10. 533 billion = .16% of GDP over 20 years. Thankyou. How hard would that have been
for a Reuters reporter? Too hard, apparently.

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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:10 PM
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6. Reducing our use of energy should bring down energy prices
More corporate greed b.s. to scare Americans away from becoming more responsible.
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Alexia Wheaton Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:10 PM
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7. Could Tom Doggett be another Jeff Gannon?
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:12 PM
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9. Over 20 years!!!! Gee, wonder why that is left out of the title :)
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-06-07 09:56 PM
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11. CONTACT REUTERS TO QUESTION THIS HERE:
http://today.reuters.com/HelpAndInfo/ContactUs.aspx

click on "contact a reuters editor".
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