It was very sad watching Tony Snow on Countdown interview.

I don't agree with his politics, but in all fairness, he's just doing his job when he answers reporters questions. I realize chemo takes a toll on you,but when they showed a pic of him before the treatment and you see him now, it's awful to see such a change in a very short time. He's trying to put on a good show, but I believe he's not winning this battle.

Of course, I said the same thing about Arlan and he's fine now. I really hope I'm wrong about Tony too.

may or may not qualify to enter it, he "may" be able to get permission from his docs to take this as well as several other key antioxidant supplements that will most likely help him feel better and WILL NOT interfere with his rounds of treatment, in fact, they may even help it work more effectively.

http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/ECOG-E4Z02

Outline

This is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, multicenter study. Patients are stratified according to gender, ECOG performance status (0-1 vs 2-3), and concurrent chemotherapy (yes vs no). Patients are randomized to 1 of 2 treatment arms.

* Arm I: Patients receive oral levocarnitine (L-carnitine) twice daily on weeks 1-4.


* Arm II: Patients receive oral placebo twice daily on weeks 1-4.


After week 4, all patients receive oral L-carnitine twice daily on weeks 5-8.

Fatigue is assessed at baseline and then at weeks 4 and 8.

Trial Contact Information

Trial Lead Organizations

Eastern Cooperative Oncology Group


Ricardo Cruciani, MD, PhD, Protocol chair
Ph: 212-420-2432
Russell Portenoy, MD, Protocol co-chair
Ph: 212-844-1403
Email: rportenoy@bethisraelny.org
Trial Sites
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....it's the good american citizens who don't have a chance when they get cancer.

tony snow is fine with for profit healthcare that denies treatment to the average citizen.....as long as he gets his state of the art treatment.

snow can rot in hell.

suggest to you that a person can do much for themselves, if they know what has been used in the orient by mainstream medicine as well as in Europe, not to replace trad. therapies, but rather to work with them.

...it's generally my first choice.

i just have a hard time giving a shit for a fascist when there are good people suffering in the world.

enabler for *. I wish he wasn't involved with this wh too, and you have to know that someday, if he survives this, he may look back in regret for getting messed up with this group that may (hopefully) be the target of many investigations after 2008 and hopefully up for a trip to the big house.

Tony seems like a pretty nice guy who has a lot of respect. He could certainly do this country a world of good if he were to renounce the Republic philosophy as one of his last acts. What a legacy that would be. We can only hope. :eyes:

I simply cannot understand how (or why) he chooses to promulgate the obvious lies he parrots. I guess he must believe them. Isn't it tragic?
edit: I don't think he will see Christmas this year, sadly.

I remember one really nasty column he wrote but I can't bring myself to hate him , not when hes's sick....

Maybe I'm soft...

It's just that I wish he'd quit lying before he croaks. He HAS to know he's blowing smoke up our skirts...the question is -why-?

But he's a conservative piece of work for sure...

I even had pity for Roy Cohn who was intentionally nasty... At least Tony Snow seems like a good guy if he wasn't discussing politics...

I know some real kind hearted, salt of the earth folks who are Republicans... I just don't discuss politics with em... I know some folks here probably think being a good person and being a Republican are mutually exclusive but that's not always true...

n/t

Apparently he doesn't give a shit about his legacy...and maybe it doesn't matter anyway. In 10000 years, if there are any humanoids left, nobody alive today will be remembered.

Snow is part of the criminal conspiracy that is ruining our Nation and killing our children.

Fuck him and may he rot in hell!

he used to be a posting member of the freeptard club. they're not human, they're garbage.

begin with that thought.

we want him healthy and fighting us Dems.

who is this we?

i want the nazis and their corporate masters out of power. i want an end to this war now. i want a smart energy policy and a healthy environment and affordable healthcare for everyone.

this isn't a sport like a football game. this is life or death stuff....this is the health of our nation and of the world. i don't want these nazis fighting us....i want them to go away. i want sanity and peace and freedom and justice. people that fight against that are fascists. i don't want them around.

If your analogy was true the Democrats and Republicans would have their own armies...

nt

I'm not to that point yet... If you are then I respect your right to be so...

A healthy Snow can never counter the criticism of this White House. So let him trot out his PR. He doesn't make sense but I don't want to see him die just because he is a Bush mouthpiece. I wish Tony Snow and you well.

hundreds of thousands dead in iraq and thousands of our good fighting men dead for nothing. the environment is dying by the day. we're all paying the price for what the nazis and their corporate masters have done....and snow is one of their propogandists.

so, seriously, with all the death and destruction caused by these nazis, who has time to feel sorry when one of them goes down? why do they merit it? shouldn't they be at the end of the pity list behind all the innocent lives they're responsible for being lost?

That's why I'm not a Republican...

....who have suffered or died as a result of the ideology he supports? does he even merit a single sympathy thread here?

Even the Chimperor...

I'll leave their fate up to God or whatever higher power one believes in and history...

wishing Snow ill will won't make this stupid war end.

who's wishing him ill? i'm just saying he doesn't merit all this fake sympathy. save your sympathy for the victims.

Compassion isn't on speaking terms with petty.

When someone is in a life and death struggle, pretty much everything is petty.

...most of them don't support the evil ideology that tony snow does. so why not express compassion for them instead?

this tony snow crap is nothing more than posturing.

It's not something you have to ration.

no matter how repulsive I may find their personal politics.

The whole time I was thinking about how I should care about this poor poor millionaire who really doesn't give a crap about anyone else. After all, why would he spew Bush's lies if he did?

I don't know. I guess I'm not as good a person as I could be. I admit it. Sometimes I just can't find the empathy.

He lies constantly for a Fascist Regime that is killing thousands. Does that fact change because he has cancer?

If I were facing probably imminent death, I'd want to come clean. I just can't figure whether he either -will- not, or -can- not. I'll probably be remembered as an abrasive old fart but hopefully not a liar.

I see my fault. I'm saving my empathy for those whom I think are worth it. I am judgmental. I know what it's like to be sick. I'm sick today. But I am pretty sure I'll be well by tomorrow. There is nothing in life without it.

Just because he's an ass doesn't mean I have to be one.

They hide behind his cancer, just like they did the school children of 9/11.
Tony, you fucked up good, Et the WH is enjoying it.

Then tell me again how you pity the monsters who are doing that butchery. He's suffering from a fucking hangnail compared the slaughter he is facilitating.

Oh, I forget. They're foreigners and he's a member of your clan.

Edit - Since you aren't likely to look for yourself, here's one:

I had empathy for Saddam Hussein ...Whatever he did it was sad to see him humiliated in the final days of his life...

I would object, because I oppose the death penalty in all cases. The sick view that he deserves our sympathy and support is what I objected to. He is a mass murderer, a child killer. Whatever he suffers, it is a mere millionth of the of the suffering he has helped create.

6.5 billion people are higher on my list of people to fell sorry for than him or any of the other monsters he works with. But, of course, there are those deluded fools who think Snow is actually "one of us." Or maybe the "us" they include themselves in is just different than the "us" I am a part of.

(edit typo)

http://images.abolkhaseb.net/usa-did-it/images/Najaf%20residential%20area%20August%2018,%202004_jpg.jpg

...or maybe I did and couldn't bear to remember it.

I've seen that picture several times and the look on that man's face always did me in... now it pales in comparison.

There are no words--I won't even try. It's too much.

It's sad for anyone to suffer like that. That being said, he chose and continues to choose to lie every day and slam Dems every day. He's been lying and playing mean for a long, long time. I wouldn't doubt if that is the cause of his cancer. If you believe in the spiritual/metaphysical ways of things his cancer is a physical manifestation of his state of consciousness. Perhaps if he quit and changed his ways it would help his health.

Please don't say that...

My mom had colon cancer...She is a saint...My cousin died of pancreatic cancer when he was 52... He was a Ivy League grad who could have made big bucks but he was satisfied working for Catholic Social Services...

Ted Kennedy's son had bone cancer and had to have his leg amputated at nine years old...

Etcetera...

Etcetera...

My best friend's mom is getting chemo for her leukemia...

I was getting at the metaphysical beliefs about the reasons bodies become diseased. Usually it's because the person's being is out of balance for whatever reason, usually an emotional one. It could be just being worried a lot, unresolved emotional matters, it doesn't have to be that the person did something bad. It's a disease and that's the state of the body, in disease.

And Snow is really about hatred a lot of the time. He knowingly wrote lies about Clinton, and who knows what else, and never retracted them or apologized for them. He knowingly lies to cover up the most corrupt and evil administration. It's got to take a toll on one's emotional well being to do that if they have even half an ounce of decency or conscience, and I don't think he's evil and soulless (like Cheney) so I'm sure it must affect him. So I wouldn't doubt that is manifesting itself in a physical way.

That's all I meant. Sorry if I didn't word it so as not to upset you. Best wishes to you and yours.

I can't really enjoy seeing someone suffer. My mom died from cancer. Gee, if only she had his money and his connections she might be alive. It took all my parent's money. All my brother's money. It took everything they had. Grrrrr

So, I can't enjoy the suffering but I don't give a shit if he dies. One more fascist down. THE MAN HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS FOR GOD'S SAKE. I wouldn't even kill him. I don't support the death penalty and that is across the board. ...but I sure as hell am not weeping.

I'm also with Karl on the part about how nice it would be if he had a sudden epiphany and denounced all THE VILE NASTY STUFF HE HAS DONE AND THE VILE AND NASTY ADMINISTRATION HE WORKS FOR.

Lee

They hate us for many reasons and they wish our destruction.
I hate THEM for many reasons, but I don't want to see them dead.
This man has a wife and kids.
Yeah - he is a right wing water carrier.
But, I don't wish him dead.

I do hope that one day he wakes up and realizes he's on the wrong team.

Now, Savage, Rush, Ingraham, and Hannity?
Can we get them all in the same helicopter?

for anyone suffering physically, even a silver-tongued narcissist like Tony. But it's a shallow kind of caring, almost a reflexive thing. Another human is in visible distress and so you naturally empathize. But I don't find myself putting him on my mental prayer list. Let whatever happens happen.

I don't agree that Snow is "just doing his job when he answers reporter' questions." He's a very clever propagandist and professional stonewaller. I very much loathe the type of person that he is. They are prevalent in our society and get away with too much. So while I can feel sorry for him in all his flawed humanity, at the same time if he were no longer doing his "job" of lying for Bu$hco day after day, it would certainly be no loss to humanity.

i will not discuss with anyone wishing him ill..

he has my deepest and kindest good wishes for a full recovery!

no one deserves cancer..period.

fly

and yes... it is his job to answer questions and i have not seen him doing his job from day one.

and STILL supports?

Save your pity for someone that deserves it, because NONE of these Nazi wannabes do.

:nopity:

What point is served hating a man who seems so close to the end of his life?

Is this hatred of him from DU'ers going to excuse hatred from the other side when those we adore are dying?

Diss Snow all you want.He did what he believed.I hope my kids say the same about me when I die.They Know I didn't sell my soul.Just because someone doesn't think like us,doesn't mean they aren't committed to their cause.Let's move on.

But also his family and himself as well.

the job requires him to lie. and he isn't one who is struggling to provide financially for the family.

i have sympathy for what he is going through with the cancer and i hope he makes it for himself and his family, especially the kids.

but i will never excuse him for that "job" he is doing.