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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:33 AM
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Thoughts on a classic Right-Wing statement
Statement: "We Have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here."

Rebuttal: Timothy McVeigh.

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:34 AM
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1. "They" are us. eom
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:42 AM
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2. We have found the enemy....it is within us. n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:08 AM
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3. great twist on that classic line
and very true on many many levels.
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:10 AM
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4. It's an invalid syllogism any way you look at it
A: Iraqis will invade the US if we don't fight them.
B: We must fight the Iraqis in Iraq.
C: We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here ????

You just can't unwind this ridiculous statement enough to find a shred of truth or logic in it. It's totally a focus-grouped witch's brew of words meant to cripple our ability to think.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:10 AM
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5. one flaw among many
he talks about "them" as if they are A single organization with A central leadership. The thing that hampers terror groups is that they tend to be hotheads who do not work well as A team. This also makes them harder to track as they distrust even their own and tend to split into smaller groups as personality conflicts erupt within any terrorist group. The Bin Laden organization seems to be an exception. It was what GB seems to think we have now.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:13 AM
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6. Rebuttal: Anthrax Attack
Who are we supposed to fight abroad to stop further attacks of that sort?
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