We Have No Unity, No Unity at All

We Have No Unity, No Unity at All
by Timothy Gatto | Aug 11 2007 - 9:31am


I wrote an article about a General Strike on September 11, 2007. I also went to a meeting that was called by Move-On.org this week. I tried to get people from my South Carolina Community involved in a vigil to protest the war in front of my rabid Senator’s office (Lindsay Graham). I have been told that Move-On isn’t “well respected around here South Carolina), or that the anti-war people don’t want to get involved with partisan interests. I have been told of at least four other protests that are better than a “General Strike” all of which are going to take place in the “future”.

Well I’ve got something to say to all of the people that in one way or another have different paths to save this country from a dictatorship of the right. You had better hurry and get your “plans” in order because you really don’t have much time. I’ll tell some of you this also, either you want to get rid of Bush and Cheney and end this war, or you are all just seeking the betterment of whatever group or groups that you belong to, or headlines for your own views.

I get e-mails from people that ask me who is behind this? I’ve heard that somebody named Anthony St. Martin proposed this idea, I head of it from a comment on one of my articles and thought it a pretty good idea. I don’t know who is behind it. I’m behind it, and so are all the people that commented that it’s a great idea whose time has come. How do we do it? By doing nothing, that’s how. It doesn’t take a Ph.D. To understand that staying home from work and not buying anything could make a difference. You also don’t need directions. You also don’t need someone “important” to be behind it sheeple. If the immigrants that came from Latin America can do this, I thought that the American people could do it. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Americans are too afraid.

We are in a really bad situation. We have a certified nut-case in the White House that has a “contingency Plan” for usurping power from all three branches of government if there is an “emergency”. They won’t give the “Secret” details to the congressional Oversight Committee and we are just supposed to go along with it. The President has written an Executive Order (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html) that states that anyone that interferes with the Iraq effort can have their assets seized. I guess everyone is OK with that? Apparently the “opposition” is a myth. People can’t even decide whether or not we should blame the Democrats that vote for everything Bush wants'’ because it might “fracture” the movement.

Well in my view, unless we can at least decide to participate in a General Strike on September 11, 2007. We have no “movement” What we have is many people with their own opinions that don’t want to work with anyone else. I’ll just keep on writing. That’s what I do. I try to get Americans to understand what is happening to them on a daily basis. It is the only way I know of to fight back. From here on out, I really don’t want to try to convince anyone to save this Republic. That has to come from your own conscience. You do whatever you think is best. I have never been a “joiner” mostly because it usually means dealing with people with huge ego’s that believe they are smarter than everyone else. So elect your Hillary Clinton. I will just keep on writing about how we are all getting shafted by the Corporate Cabal and when they won’t let me write anymore, I’ll know it’s time to stop.

read the comment after the post also

as we all think we are, we are really scared that the other person won't stop, or someone else will get ahead.

Need to convince all people in transportation to stop first. If you can't get somewhere, there is no where to go. If you don't get your deliveries, you run out of merchandise, can't open restaurants....at that point there is a whole section of service jobs that are put on hold. After that what's the point of everyone else showing up... Anyway, convincing all people to stop is a hurdle... convincing transportation to stop... cabs, planes, trains, subways, truckers.. it would grind everyone to a halt. Target the people who make the biggest difference, and then you can force other's to stop.. think of a huge storm that stops industry.. it really effects everyone else's jobs...

and you are right... working with self-righteous peace workers is worse than an overbearing boss.

And everybody to follow you in a useless, silly, protest?

I mean seriously, exactly what is everybody taking an unpaid vacation for one day
going to do? Even if delaying your grocery shopping for one day had any real economic
impact (which it doesn't), do you think Bush cares?

Do the Democratic Party a favor: don't become the guy FOX news gets to point at to
delegitimize the entire Democratic movement. We're actually doing relatively OK right
now, moving the country is the right direction without your help. Or your generous
offer to be our leader either.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

FISA is relatively OKAY with you?

Bush's executive orders and our Dems saying nothing to challenge them - that's relatively OKAY with you?

Impending war with Iran - relatively OKAY?

Scooter Libby getting off - relatively OKAY?

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and thousands of our military DEAD - relatively OKAY? Do you think their families would believe their deaths are relatively OKAY?

:crazy:

FISA? Do you have even the remotest sense of history of the American republic? Wilson ordered war-protesters beaten, Hoover ordered striking miners bombed. And you're upset about a six-month long permission to spy, which the keystone-kops in the Bush administration will probably manage to lose?

Executive Orders have been challenged, when challengeable. Not everything is. The Presidency is a co-equal branch of government.

Impending war with Iran? With the state our army is in... Really, P2Blib, you gotta lay off the dope. It's causing hallucinations.

Scooter Libby getting off - It's a power the President has. It's in the Constitution. You like the Constitution, right?

The war is bad, but given that we can't stop it while Bush is in office, and he will remain in office because the Republican party still largely backs him, it's going to be what it's going to be.

Besides, the "relatively OK" I was referring to, was not the state of the nation, but the ability of Democrats to persuade the nation to move away from Republican ideology. Democrats, be they from the
liberal side or the conservative side of the party, are doing relatively OK in that regard. The last thing we need is a bunch of stupid political stunts that make people who voted Republican last time decide that - as much as they dislike them - we're still a bunch of kooks. Which is what dumbass political stunts largely do.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

My daddy was a history teacher. I also understand our constitution, apparently better than you do. And I read the FISA bill. Did you? It's not just a 6 months long permission to spy. (As if any permission for the president to spy on American citizens with no oversight is EVER okay!!)

I also know that children squeal that "Everybody else does it!" but that certainly doesn't excuse the actions of a president. I didn't accept it from my kids and I won't use it to justify Bush's misdeeds.

Tell the president he is co-equal. He appears to not know that.

I don't do dope and implying that I do is certainly not an effective way to make your point. I hope we don't go to war with Iran, but I do NOT trust this president to solve any international problems diplomatically.

Scooter Libby was only one small part of a conspiracy to ruin a woman's career and compromise the security of CIA agents all over the world. Look up treason in your history book. I don't care if Bush has the right to commute his sentence; it was still wrong.

Now go and tell every family who has a soldier in Iraq that the war is bad but it just isn't politically convenient to end it until Bush is out of office. I'm sure they will understand!

No the Democrats are NOT doing relatively OKAY. Their approval rating is lower than Cheney's! And instead of putting a stop to the insanity we have lived with for 6 years, they caved in to the worst president ever. That is certainly not relatively okay.

The Democrats are doing fine. "Congress" as an institution is doing horribly, but those polls that have dug one step deeper, the reason stated is because of Republicans in office. And not just in Democratic states either; also in Republican ones.

Insofar as soldiers' welfare is concerned, you again somehow think that Congress can somehow just declare itself Commander in Chief, and order the troops home. But I'm sorry to have to tell you, that's not how it works. Cutting off funds doesn't mean the troops come home, it means Bush gets to petulantly order them to stay there as they run out of ammo.

And don't think for one moment that he won't, to put "pressure" on our razor thin edge in Congress. Because the one thing Democrats don't want is some base to get overrun because of any spat our Congresspeople have with Bush. Remember, Bush doesn't have to run for reelection; we do. So the "throw all the bastards out" movement that would naturally result will favor the GOP.

Oh, and BTW, nobody but the Democratic/Hard-Left base is upset about FISA. Hell, most Americans don't even know the acronym. And those peoples' votes count as much as yours does.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Bush administration = keystone kops (have no fear)

while

Liberal activists are "still a bunch of kooks" (be afraid)


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transparent... ;(

Typical Concern Troll Slop. "Oooooohh, We just CAN'T let ourselves become fodder for the Fox News people to de legitimize us.

Get some new material. This is old, tired, and boring, and I'm sick of hearing it.

The country is not moving in the right direction.

it is rudderless, Leaderless, the President has declared himself a dictator by way of Presidential Directives and Executive Orders, the Democratic "Leadership" has, at best, rolled over and given Bush just about everything he wants with little to no resistance.


I'm sure you would have felt the Boston tea Party was a useless silly protest.

You feel free to wallow in your delusion, munch your cheeseburgers, chest-beat for the sport's team, swill your beer, relax in front of your LCD Widescreen, catch some hot Celebrity Gossip, and feel good and powerful about the direction of the country that We the People have all but lost complete control over.

I'm not going down with your ship.

We are not doing relatively OK. We are losing our country.

Wake Up.

I've long complained about how poorly motivated and or organized many anti-war or other protests are these days...people just don't seem that interested or motivated or just have "other things to do". Some, I understand have families and jobs and real lives that force them to put survival and food on the table ahead of other interests, but I've also seen many who could be doing something and prefer to let others do it instead. It's "I don't have the time" or "what I say/think/do doesn't really matter" or some other excuse.

Forming United Fronts has always been difficult. Sorry. That wasn't very helpful but I just wanted to point out that this lack of unity in the movement is not new.

Lee

I imagine such desperate discussions must have also taken place...in Germany 1935.

More Will Rogers here:
http://www.cmgworldwide.com/historic/rogers/quotes.htm

The main problem is that many Americans cant afford to lose a day of pay and don't get paid sick days like if you were working in a corporation. Also the threat of being fired scares those same people, even if it is just a threat. If they get fired and get another job in a week, that could mean the electric bill or food? I'm game if there could be some sort of organization to it, so maybe people that decided to join in would have a place to meet and protest/annoy the hell out of enough people to get attention. Something needs to happen to hopefully get some of the sheeples attention.

organization.

In October 1884, when the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions (then only in existence three years), called for a general strike to support the 8-hour work day, they set the strike date in May 1886 -- a year and a half away. Then they had to work constantly to organize it -- because such event just don't occur spontaneously

If you want to organize a general strike for an objective: (1) the objective had better be clear as day; (2) the talking points around the issue have been carefully developed and tested; and (3) you better know who's going to support the strike and why, and who's going to oppose it and why.


For a history of May Day, see
What goes around comes around
Monthly Review, May, 1998 by Ellen Leary
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1132/is_n1_v50/ai_20803619/pg_1

national leaders like in the past. No big marches lead by national leaders. No media coverage. Lies the norm from politician and press. Religious organizations that have no real moralty, just canned values. We are a dead people run by radicals who now have conned the people out of their rights. Where do the people turn? Both parties have shown doing away with the rights of the people is aok. So we move ahead, this immoral, pitiful excuse of a nation with "dead" people just getting on with their "lives".

we have a crazy quilt of organizations/groups, some credible, some not-so credible, some are one-issue, some are multi-issue, some are small, some are big. And all are screaming at the same time at the same microphone on the same stage. Is it no wonder no one can hear one unified message?

what we don't have is a leader. Someone credible and strong enough to say "THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT"

until then, there will be no unity.

They don't trust who may be behind "Internet" efforts and they have every right to be.

like Pavlov's dogs, a huge segment of america's populace have been trained to viscerally hate the word "strike" -- the only really powerful and effective means of non-violent resistance and public empowerment -- even against their best interests.

you want support? reword it. as structured above you could even get knuckleheaded follower types, such as those registered GOP (trust me, i've seen my fellow party members. the majority are easily cowed into going along to get along), to join in.

9/11 is a great choice date. but i think it's getting dangerously close to the date that the organization probably won't be there. but best of luck! :hug: