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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 12:23 PM Original message |
FISA changed the game. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. I say we quit. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Of course we don't quit |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. The way I see it, the grassroots have got to start recruiting their own candidates. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Yes that is exactly what we need to do |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. That's true |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. This was the photo of Pelosi/Reid leaving their BreakfastWithBush |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Dem leadership has sold us out and there needs to be consequences for their behavior. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What did they get in return? Shouldn't they have asked and gotten something? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes they should have |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. They got a now useless FISA court packed with useless judges. Go figure. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Is that all? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. The day they sold us out |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Uh, Bush reneged on the deal: |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. Wow, their expressions and posture are revealing |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's what's bothering me, also. How is it that many Dems keep saying they "didn't know?" |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Yep. With you on that. Same pattern of behavior gong back more than |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. We need to do what other countries have done |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. I agree. I feel exactly the same way. FISA caught me completely off guard. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, it is very troubling. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. How could they not know ? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. FISA is evidence of the game being exactly the same, but few on DU understanding it |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. explain |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Cowardly ambitious people in Congress? Passing bad legislation to avoid bad press? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I thought you were of the "They're trying, but they don't have the votes" school of thought |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I don't see how the two views are inconsistent |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The 2 views differ on the issue of whether Democratic failure can be attributed... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You're looking at different issues, and, moreover, different Democrats. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. cowards |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Do Democrats want to "get" Bush via investigation and impeachment if possible? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. What makes you think that they want to do that? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-11-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Thalmann's belief that a Nazi majority would galvanize the left was utter lunacy |
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