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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:13 PM
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"Little Soldiers in the Culture War"...questions about a values curriculum in schools.
I was reading about an institute on Oklahoma called the Character Training Institute, which is supposedly based on the controversial methods of Bill Gothard.

Now I have questions as to whether a some charter schools which are partially funded with public money are using a program based on his system called Character First. More on that in a minute.

I was reading this article from last year called Cult of Character

It is about an institute in Oklahoma.

Cult of Character
How the ‘secular’ Character Training Institute is working to build evangelist Bill Gothard’s vision of a First-Century Kingdom of God—one city, one state, one school board, one police force and one mind at a time.

"From the outside the bland, unmarked exterior of the Character Training Institute’s headquarters blends remarkably well into its immediate surroundings. This is a section of Oklahoma City that hasn’t yet benefited from the nearby, upscale urban development intended to draw both tourism and business to the area.

..."Inside the institute, Arizona state treasurer David Petersen takes to the conference podium to tell how his state’s Family Services Committee passed “Character Education Legislation.”

“All schools now have it implemented,” he says proudly. “We’re fighting for the soul of this nation.” Petersen is not being hyperbolic. He attributes his passion for “character” to a personal meeting with evangelist Bill Gothard.

Gothard, the 74-year-old, unmarried man at the head of the Oak-Brook, Illinois-based Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP)—which brings in an estimated profit of at least $63 million annually—has been in the evangelism business since 1964. Originally named the Institute in Basic Youth Conflicts, IBLP changed its name in 1990. All totaled, IBLP boasts that at least 2.5 million people have attended the organization’s seminars and ministries in the United States and other countries, including Russia, Mongolia, Romania and Taiwan.


Another search on that group led to this article from 1999 about a Ft. Lauderdale school. I remembered then that several years ago here we discussed that the board of directors of the school were not aware of Gothard. When they were told about his policies and his connection to their curriculum called Character First....they said it had no place in a public school.

The program is listed on their website at the Charter School of Excellence.

Character First curriculum still listed

Character First!
The Character First! Education series is designed specifically for elementary-age students. Students are taught the positive character qualities vital for them to become successful and productive citizens in our society. They are inspired to achieve excellence in every aspect of their life.

Character First! Education
520 W. Main St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73102
(405) 815-0001
Fax (405) 815-0002
http://www.characterfirst.com


Sounds like the program based on Gothard's principles is being taught there. But they said it wasn't.

About Bill Gothard

Gothard has been accused by fellow Christians of everything from misinterpreting the Bible to ignoring spousal abuse to being a borderline cult leader. (...)

Gothard doesn't focus on the Ten Commandments... he teaches his seven "universal, nonoptional Principles of Life," and he extends those principles to what food to eat and what clothes to wear. Breaking any of Gothard's principles leads to the highway to Hell, quite literally. (...)

Now Florida is slated to become Gothard country
State Rep. Tracy Stafford and Sen. Howard Forman, both Democrats from Broward County, have introduced bills that would force every public elementary school in the state to teach Character First! which is mentioned by name in the bills or, as the bill vaguely puts it, a program "similar" to it. (...)

When asked about Bill Gothard, both Stafford and Forman are stumped. Neither did his homework on the curriculum. They've never heard of Gothard and weren't aware that the man behind Character First! is an evangelical minister. When told about Gothard's emphasis on the "chain of command," Stafford immediately recognizes the danger in such teachings. "I can see how that could lead to a continuation of child abuse," he says.

Howard Forman now says he doesn't believe Character First! should be put in Florida's public schools. "I never heard of Gothard, and I think his ideas sound kind of screwy," Forman says. "I don't support the kind of character training where people sing songs about discipline. I don't support religious extremists of any kind." (...)


Well, it is listed there. And Forman is a director and surely knows it.

This is from 1999. It is called Little Soldiers in the Culture War

It is about that school in Fr. Lauderdale.

One of the lessons for today is obedience, and the first graders at the school inside the First Christian Church building in Fort Lauderdale sing about it quite obediently.

While the students at the Charter School of Excellence are divided fairly evenly between blacks and whites, they dress alike, with the boys in dark blue pants and green buttoned-up golf shirts and the girls wearing white blouses under plaid jumpers. All eyes are focused on their young and attractive teacher, Mrs. Blocker, who leads them in song:

Obedience is listening attentively,
Obedience will take instructions joyfully,
Obedience heeds wishes of authorities,
Obedience will follow orders instantly.
For when I am busy at my work or play,
And someone calls my name, I'll answer right away!
I'll be ready with a smile to go the extra mile
As soon as I can say "Yes, sir!" "Yes ma'am!"
Hup, two, three!


The school's website is there, that curriculum is listed there. Does anyone have any knowledge of changes made in the school's status as charter school which at that time received about $800,000 a year from the state? Is it still charter which means it receives public money?

This is alarming.

One last question about a paragraph in the very long Little Soldiers article. I am not aware of what they are referring to here.

The teachers at Bush's Liberty City school have been trained by CTI representatives in how to use Character First!, which will soon be installed there, says Katrina Wilson, the Liberty City school's principal. Forman's Charter School of Excellence teachers say Character First! has been a success and has helped to bring good behavior and discipline into the classrooms.


I was trying to remember what program we used before I retired, but I don't remember anything quite like this.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:06 PM
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1. Upon re-reading, the post says less than I thought at first.
And the first link, to http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2450/cult_of_character, also says less than you'd think.

It connects things without substantiation--"Although legally and fiscally independent, the CTI is for all intents and purposes a “secular” front group for Gothard’s IBLP", but it never actually says how they're related. To do that, they'd have to talk about the content of the curriculum; instead, being an alleged front group for Gothard merely allows them to talk about Gothard. If there are differences or overlaps, they should be pointed out, not merely implied.

"They've never heard of Gothard and weren't aware that the man behind Character First! is an evangelical minister," but it isn't surprising if there's no direct connection with Gothard--in which case he's immaterial. Gothard's emphasis on 'the chain of command' is completely irrelevant if the materials themselves do not emphasize the chain of command; and if the materials emphasize it, then Gothard's views are again irrelevant. They'd be an interesting addition to the argument, showing the relationship; but the question is begged, with the specter of an evil evangelical minister there to scare people away from actual ratiocination.

There was a minister in the church I attended that had mastered this style of discourse. With him, as with what's quoted here, 'behind the scenes' knowledge was more important than discussing the topic at hand. Is the curriculum harmful? If so, it should be quoted and shown to be harmful--I don't believe in the stigma of original sin, nor do I assume that an evangelical minister can't produce something decent. Don't know if this is a decent curriculum or not; I'm suspicious ... just not because of any connection to some Gothard.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 07:24 PM
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2. Depends on how seriously you take these views of Gothard...
and question if these are good influences for a good education. I am a retired teacher, and I question charter schools (they get public money but don't have to obey rules) and values courses.

Gothard has been accused by fellow Christians of everything from misinterpreting the Bible to ignoring spousal abuse to being a borderline cult leader. According to materials Gothard has published, his more radical ideas come from his belief in a "chain of command," which holds that authority figures -- from preachers to politicians to middle managers -- are put in their elevated positions by God. Mess with your boss, you're messing with Christ. Women are taught to be submissive and obedient to their husbands. He teaches his followers that political leaders are ordained by God and therefore to be obeyed. Gothard doesn't focus on the Ten Commandments -- he teaches his seven "universal, nonoptional Principles of Life," and he extends those principles to what food to eat and what clothes to wear. Breaking any of Gothard's principles leads to the highway to Hell, quite literally. Another path to Satan is the drums. The "backbeat" common in rock music is evil, according to his teachings, as are chords played in the minor key, which is a subversion of God's harmony.

Follow the rules, go to Heaven. Break them, and Satan will get a foothold on your soul.

Gothard disdains "knowledge," which he says only "puffs up a man," in favor of the more abstract "wisdom." "The reasoning of man will bring destruction," he tells people during seminars. To guard his followers from the evils of public schools, Gothard sells his own brand of Bible-based home-schooling. He also has his own unaccredited law school and college where his unique brand of Christianity is taught.


This is from the Soldiers in the Culture war article.

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/1999-02-18/news/little-soldiers-in-the-culture-war/

If public school money is going to charter schools which don't have to obey same rules...then I question.

I remember my neighbors putting us down for opposing the war....and saying Bush was chosen by God. That we are not to question our leaders.

So I question so they don't have to.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:42 PM
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3. "Character First" link leads to Character Council...a 501 with programs for military..
and government, as well as law enforcement.

Character First

http://www.characterfirst.com/semrich

Character Council

http://www.characterfla.org/

All well and good for that to be a 501...but if one of their programs is getting public education money seems weird.

"In 1999, the Character Training Institute received 501(c)3 status from the US Internal Revenue Service as a non-profit, tax exempt organization with a mission to promote character education through materials, seminars, training courses, and other appropriate means. The name Character First! is a registered trademark with the US Patent and Trademark Office."

http://www.characterfirst.com/aboutus/







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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:54 PM
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4. In 2003 was recommended for use in DCF training.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/gothard/gothard13.html

"Lakeland -- The state's embattled child-welfare agency wants to build a more compassionate, efficient work force through a character fitness program with roots in biblical teachings. The Character First! program has sparked controversy on grounds that it breaches the wall dividing church and state.

Program administrators insist course materials are strictly secular.

Still, Character First! has been embraced by Gov. Jeb Bush and Jerry Regier, the state's childwelfare chief who has pledged to restore the agency's credibility and boost morale.

Currently, the program is being taught in the Department of Children & Families' Orlando district, and it soon may come to District 14, which includes Polk, Highlands and Hardee counties.

"I think it has a lot of positive points to it that may be good for staff," said Cynthia Schuler, administrator of the DCF unit based in Lakeland. "

I also read that Polk County's former Sheriff Henderson used it to train deputies, but I can't find the reference now.

I get very uneasy with programs like this being used when public money is involved.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:32 PM
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5. It's anything goes with "privatization" including cults like the Waldorf schools of Rudolph Steiner,
and everything else "under the sun" that the corruption of this administration has openly endorsed.

It's truly mind control, brainwashing, programming, indoctrination of children and often a cover for networked predators-as you and I and many others are aware of.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:09 PM
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6. Character caught up to the Arizona Treasurer last September
I started a search on Kent Fahrenbruck, the secretary treasurer of Character First and these articles popped up

"Arizona's treasurer in trouble" by Nolan Clay/The Oklahoman 9-16-2006
http://www.newsok.com/article/2848693/

"AZ treasurer's dealings with Oklahoma nonprofit questioned" Tucson Citizen 9-16-2006
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/arizona_elections/26452.php

Fair use cited on all links.

Hope these are helpful, madfloridian.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:27 PM
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7. Ah, very helpful. Using state resources to promote Character First.
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/arizona_elections/26452.php

"Petersen's former executive assistant has accused him of using state resources and traveling at state expense to promote the Character First! program, which was developed by the Character Training Institute of Oklahoma City.

The institute has been a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization since 1999. It paid Petersen about $4,000 in commissions for promoting the program in Arizona schools during a six-year period that began when he still was a state senator.

"My motives were certainly in the direction of building character ... around the state," Petersen said. "They are addressing the way I did it ... did it cross any lines .. They're talking about theft, conflict of interest and fraud. Would I have done it a little bit differently, knowing the trouble it's put this office through, put me through? I certainly would have been more careful."

Yeh, we know all about pure motives here in Florida. I still am trying to find which schools here are using this program.

I find myself thinking about Neil Bush and Ignite now.

Thanks for the links.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:20 PM
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8. OMG that song is creeping me the hell out.
Is there any video of the children singing it? Because the instant I started reading the lyrics, a new potential video started playing through my head: The kids' voices singing that song in cheery little voices, to footage of uniformed soldiers from various nations and wars saluting commanders and gunning down random people.
And this image at the end:

"Yes, sir! Yes mam! Hup two three!"


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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 08:50 AM
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14. This part turned my stomach...

Obedience heeds wishes of authorities,
Obedience will follow orders instantly.

Authority figures telling kids what to do, and them obeying instantly, is exactly what led to the Catholic Church's problem. And with the list of repressed Republican perverts accused and convicted of various abuses...well...

I taught my kids (and now grandkids)to question authority politely, and if what authority says doesn't sound right--DON'T DO IT!
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 12:13 PM
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16. Good on ya'!
:hi:
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 03:45 AM
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9. Have you seen the full-on civic version?
http://www.charactercities.org/aboutus/charactercities/

Yeesh, it kinda tries not to be obviously based on this religion or that, but come on.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 05:33 AM
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10. Yikes - scary.
That "obedience" song is disturbing - children taught in a cutesy sing-song way to be good little servants. I thought we valued individuality and self-actualization in America, not mind-numbing, soul-killing conformity?

I like your sigline, too... very prescient of Gov. Dean and very true, sadly. K&R
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 06:06 AM
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11. Unfortunately, we use CF as part of our mandatory employee training at my job.
Yes, it's creepy, but what's almost worse is the cost--every employee must be "enrolled" at a cost of $30 or $40 a year. Each month we get a pamphlet handout on that month's "character trait" and watch a short video. The videos cost over $200 a month, and so on and so on. We spend thousands of dollars every year on this crap, but the bosses think that it's good "character training." We're also encouraged to take the brochures home and share them with our families.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 10:08 AM
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15. A tax exempt 501 making a big profit..
Character First

http://www.characterfirst.com/semrich

Character Council

http://www.characterfla.org /

All well and good for that to be a 501...but if one of their programs is getting public education money seems weird.

"In 1999, the Character Training Institute received 501(c)3 status from the US Internal Revenue Service as a non-profit, tax exempt organization with a mission to promote character education through materials, seminars, training courses, and other appropriate means. The name Character First! is a registered trademark with the US Patent and Trademark Office."
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 08:21 AM
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12. It is extremely alarming! Character should include the ability to master things and think on one's
own. It would seem the goal of Character First is to turn our children into little sheep-le robots!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 08:36 AM
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13. Yikes... and I thought the damage had been done to FL schools already
What a load of horse pucky this stuff is...

No more art or vocational training,


but by gum you'll get endless test prep and 'character' training... :wtf:
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