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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:45 AM Original message |
From Most Liberal To Most Conservative - Our Candidates |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Tend to agree, although... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He's From Alasks And Alaskans Have A Liberterian Streak |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. I thought Richardson was further left, and Dodd further right? |
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kitty44 (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. Richardson |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I Am Rating Them On A Them On A Continuum |
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kitty44 (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Examples? Policies? |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. you have 6 and 8 backwards, IMHO |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Beat me to it |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. I would switch Clinton and Richardson. Otherwise... n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I Have To Respectfully Disagree With You Gentlemen |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I think you misunderstood, if Hillary is right of Richardson then she would be last |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. whether you love her or hate her ... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. The truth doesn't matter to some people. It's all about what's in their gut. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
9. As usual, voting record matters not in the least to DUers. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I keep recommending "ON THE ISSUES dot org" but not many take me up on it. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. They can't. To do so, they run the risk of *being wrong*. By going with their gut... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I edited above to toss Richardson's chart up there. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Nice. For quantified info, can use this site.... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. This is my favorite site |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Now THAT's a handy link--thanks for that! nt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. np. :) |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. thanks for that site/been looking for it |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Here's Their Votes On Issues Deemed Important To The ADA |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Clinton has a 92%+ progressive voting record. Dodd a mere 85%.... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I posted all the charts just above--it's amazing how assumptions can be in error |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Yeah-But The Differences Are Small |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. No we don't all know that. This is why sometimes perceptions need to be challenged. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. He's goin' with his gut! Who needs books and facts? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. The Conventional Wisdom Was More Or Less Confirmed |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Um, *repeating* is not the same as *confirming*. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. What Part Of Kucinich and Gravel Occupying The Far Left Of The Continuum And Bill Richardson |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. The data-free nothing-but-gut-feel of it. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. How |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. christ. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. If I Got It Wrong I Got It Wrong |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. According to you. According to me, things are quite different |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm Still Confused... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Looking again I see what you mean re: Richardson. His stance on the war threw me off |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I Didn't Mean To Imply He's Conservative |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Yeah |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
81. Voting Records Mean Nothing to You? Evidently...n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 04:51 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Yer late. The OP and I worked it out |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. Compare their stances at "ON THE ISSUES"--they take statements, voting records, |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. And for comparison's sake, here's Dennis Kucinich... |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. That's why these "comparison" sites and graphs are such bullshit. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. If you knew how to READ the chart, you'd see the difference. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Can you support that assertion, or is it just bullshit? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. I'm Confused... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Yeah, that's what the TEN PERCENT on the economic side has to do with the chart. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. What 10 percent are you talking about? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Of COURSE he thinks they are good--and he thinks the government should pay for all of them |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. And that's a bad thing? n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Here we go again, with the Good and Bad nonsense. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. You're the one who started this nonsense, with a value judgement not based on fact... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Well, he doesn't. He wants Uncle Sugar to do all the paying. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. What the hell are you, one of those damned Libertarians? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Oh BOY!!! It didn't take you long to come at me with an "I BET YOU" comment!! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Excuse me? You are the one who is all over the place... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Let me be clear. I don't CARE about him. I would urge people to use the OTI websites. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Now I Am Confused... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. You're being overly simplistic when you try to rate them. Rate them, on what? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. My Showstopper Is Electability |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. It's a valid one, certainly. NT |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Dennis Is In A Class By Himself... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. He's off the chart. He only applies TEN percent of his reasoning to the economoics of issues. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. LOL a chart is supposed to tell me how much % of someone's "reasoning" they use? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Look, I can't help you at all. It's clear as day if you'd just go have a look. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Here's My Test Results... |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Kucinich won for me, again! 73% then Mike at 60% |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
16. I would have to agree with your rankings, although I would switch |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. Here's how they map on the Political Compass ... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. It Seems I Got The Big Picture Right |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. What puzzles me ... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Probably Because He's Left On Everything Else Like Expanding The Welfare State |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. If you go far enough to the left you end up on the right!!! NT |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I Just Know He Yells At And Disrespects His Primary Opponents |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Well, if people could stop being excessively PC, they'd call him what he is--a crank. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You Would Think His In Your Face Demeanor Would Make Him A Hero Here Among Some |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. There are a few in the Adoration of Mike Fan Club |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I Remember When He Started Yelling At Obama |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. All he needed was an "Amos McCoy" limp and cane, and the phrase |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. As I Said Up Thread... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. John "Co-sponsor of IWR" Edwards, third? nt |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. He moved up 'cause he apologized. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
80. I would have put Hillary at 7 and Gravel at 8 |
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