My guess on Rove is it has to do w/ the U.S. Attorneys and rigging elections.

Just a guess but the whole dirty stolen elections is about to come out in
the open again. It has become clear that Rove was the force behind or
used U.S. Attorneys all across the country as "button men" to rig the vote
and or "punish" political enemies such as the former Governor of Alabama.

Rove was in "it" up to his neck be it Ohio, Missouri, Arkansas, or stopping
the investigation into Jack Abramoff's client's sweat shop and prostitution
operations in the Pacific his fingerprints are all over those jobs.

I wonder if Abramoff or Ney or Cunningham or whomever are "singing" to
the F.B.I.? And the word has gotten back to Karl through Gonzales .....
I don't buy Rove's "spending more time with the family story" in the least.

he is in the best position to wield his corrupt power as he sits at Bush's side.

And, the departure is abrupt, with the biggest BS explanation out there.

Things that make you go :hmmm: MKJ

He and MJ are going to hang.

I think he's just setting himself up to work on somebody else's campaign. that's his main strength, and he can't do much more for Bush in the next year and a half.

just to hand it over to a Democrat in 2008? It's imperative (for them) that they hold on to the reins of power.

There will be no repercussions about the USA scandal or the election fraud. Rove is simply moving on to make sure the outcome of the next election is secured.

"Rove resigns WH post to use his talents and expertise to assist GOP candidates ..." Wouldn't even have to announce which candidate - that could come out later: "Rove Joins Campaign of ____ full-time."

Sounds a lot better than "spending time with the family" ... and a lot less suspicious from their end ...

OTOH, if he is leaving to leave Bush high and dry, he might do it this very way. I don't believe Bush can function without Rove so unless Rove is just going undercover a la Karen Hughes, then Bush is well and truly fucked and probably too stupid to realize it.

at Tom's treatment in prison.

.... but who would prosecute?

might want to make a name for themselves.

Rove resigning at least technical makes him easier to question...I mean so far the Dems have not gotten Harriet but I don't think Bush can be all that sure his executive hug is going hold up in court after they leave the WH.

Boy I had to turn off MSNBC its a Rove love fest...ack...

For all the bare knuckled battles he engaged in during his slime-filled, law-breaking, sleaky career, he never ran up against tough opposition that fought back. McCain cried. GOP candidates in Texas caved like badly run, mormon owned, Utah mines. Kerry? heh. Too many polite pols who refused to take it down 23 notches.

Now, some are taking the fight back to him, and he can't deal with it.

remember Bob Ney's Deputy wore a wire for the FBI. Susan Ralston was with Rove on that famous night when the election was being stolen.

just keep harassing him. He resigned, he's history. Isn't that enough?"

Wait for it...

and it's VERY interesting he's doing this right before the beginning of September.

...something is going down.

A Monday Morning News Dump??? GMAFB....no such thing.

Voter suppression, machine rigging, misinformation, vote-for-pay, "plumbers" units, etc. He'd take charge of it all.

The Pugs know they're going to have to pull out all the stops to steal this one.

Rove knows how to one thing with ruthless clarity and that is steal elections. The neocons will not let his decades of experience go to waste.

Certainly he is going to try to shop himself around to current campaigns... and will undoubtedly get work. But I think he is also leaving because his bad acts per politicizing federal agencies and corrupting the DOJ are keeping a nasty focus on him and the WH and the WH is probably anxious to get a little of the heat off by getting Rove and his negative attention outside the WH compound.

I'm sure karl needs to be cut loose from the white house rules of operations (as if they ever followed those, the ones they haven't slaughtered) in order to fix the next one for someone else.

Someone who might be willing to risk it all for the B* crime family probably won't be so trusting of Romney or Guliani. They don't have a daddy as an ex pres to bail them out of the slammer.

No, Karl needs to go out and do all the dirty work himself.

If the dems were serious about uncovering this filthy administration, they'd tail him 24-7. He'll be leading anyone who's interested right into the operations. But would the dems prosecute?

(crickets)

as to why he will leave. My first thought was the guy wired and conversing w/ Ney to give Feds info. Still is my best guess anyway. Rove's done so many illegal things, it's just a matter of "which one comes out first", imo.

as working in the WH. I say he's still going to run special dirty ops.

Both presidential elections were in question around the country. It was a problem that no one seemed to be able to pin down. George is in office due to dirty elections, not Rove's Brain.

Now, do we have the truth on tape?

Rove knows there is no convincing way to spin what continually doesn't happen (government, reduced sectarian strife, a quelled al Qaeda) into what's been accomplished (4,000 American deaths, billions of Ammerican dollars lost, wounded and dead Iraqis, American GI's disabled, dispossessed, loss of ben Laden).

So he cooked the story of the Chief of Staff telling everyone in a administration that they'd be expected to remain to the end of the presidency if they stayed past Labor Day. Or maybe he even had the Chief of Staff do it with everyone to cover his hide.

So, blame it on the Chief of Staff with that little story, and sail away. Or rather sneak off the sinking ship, rat that he is. And he knows it a sinking ship, wan will be obviously so from Sept. on. (Reducing his credibility as he works for other Repugs' campaigns).

What do your think?

Was the Chief of Staff story just a guise so Karl could sneak off a ship he knows to be sinking???

But yours is good!

:toast:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/08/13/ro-ro-rove

Jack Abramhoff has been telling friends and family in the last few months that Karl Rove was going down because he is implicated in the bribery investigations. This much I know–Abramhoff has been talking freely and fully to the FBI about Rove and what he knew and when he knew it. Whether that translates into an indictment remains to be seen.

Then there is the Rove role in outing Valerie Plame. He was not indicted but that was only because he finally found a way to tell something approximating the truth after several appearances before the grand jury. Joe and Val released this statement today:

Good riddance to bad rubbish...