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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:40 AM
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Guard Uses Taser on Man Holding Newborn
Aug 14, 11:09 PM (ET)

By JUAN A. LOZANO

HOUSTON (AP) - In a confrontation captured on videotape, a hospital security guard fired a stun gun to stop a defiant father from taking home his newborn, sending both man and child crashing to the floor. Now William Lewis says his baby girl suffers from head trauma because she was dropped.
"I've got to wonder what kind of moron would Tase an adult holding a baby," said George Kirkham, a former police officer and criminologist at Florida State University. "It doesn't take rocket science to realize the baby is going to fall."
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"I've got to wonder what kind of moron would Tase an adult holding a baby," said George Kirkham, a former police officer and criminologist at Florida State University. "It doesn't take rocket science to realize the baby is going to fall."
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Lewis was arrested and charged with endangering a child. A grand jury in May declined to indict him on that charge, but charged him with retaliation, accusing him of making threats against Boling.

More: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070815/D8R16TI80.html
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It was bound to happen sooner or later :(
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:44 AM
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1. Whew! At least it wasn't a pregnant woman. The fetus could have been harmed. nt
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:57 AM
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2. There's more to this story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1585947

It appears that the dad didn't identify himself as dad and tried to flee the hospital, triggering a security bracelet lockdown system.

I'm not defending the actions of the security guard, but it seems reasonable to suggest that he thought the man was kidnapping the baby.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:05 PM
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4. But the article says the mother was leaving with them and that she was
standing there when the officer tazed the man.

And even if he were trying to kidnap the baby, the elevators were not working due to the wristband still being on the baby.

The officer was incredibly wrong to taze him while holding the baby. The only possible justification for tazing the man while holding the baby would be if the man was physically harming the baby, and then only if tazing the man meant less danger to the baby than not tazing him.

I'm really not impressed with this officer's brain power. He didn't even warn the man that he was going to be tazed if he didn't cooperate.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:54 PM
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6. I'm just curious about this phrase-probable cause. It just seems
to cover the gambit of all kinds of actions most Americans would be concerned about. But my how this one stops the heart beating. Why O why would someone do this?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:00 PM
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3. Since when is it the hospital who determines whether or not a patient leaves?
One normally waits for a doctor's release from the hospital, but, unless the baby was in such serious condition that leaving the hospital would endanger her, the parents had the right to take her home.

Unless, of course, the "Patriot Acts" have changed that too.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:14 PM
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5. It's not an unreasonable burden for the parents to confirm that they are the parents before leaving.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 12:57 PM
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7. We need a civilian police force that polices the police.
They are getting way too trigger happy and power drunk.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 02:05 PM
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8. Very, very long thread about this from yesterday.
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