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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:11 PM
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Does anybody else feel it in the air - it IS upon us....


Most everyone here has been following this administration and the political House of Horrors that IS the Bush administration for years now.

Lately, it feels like we have stopped falling and we are in a purgatory of waiting. We stand moments away from arriving at a place we are all scared to go. Spy satellites have been turned on us. The executive orders are written & unchallenged. The dems bowed to the feet of fascism (not all, but enough) & let Bush usurp unconstitutional power & violate our civil rights (with their blessing now, I know he has been doing it since the beginning). The machine turns its eye upon Iran.

It feels like the eerie calm before a very big storm. The feeling I used to get while waiting out tornado warnings in my cold cellar when I was a child.

It feels like that moment in a horror movie right before the murderer comes out unleashed with a machete.

It feels like when you wake up after a horrible tragedy and realize it is real.

It feels like the beginning of the end.

I would not write this post anywhere else. But, I know there are many of you, tuned in to the daily tides of events, might be feeling it as well. The breathless drop before you go over the edge...

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larkrake Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:15 PM
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1. You should write fiction,
you remind me of the way Koontz grabs ones conscious
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:17 PM
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2. Thanks :)

:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:11 PM
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20. lol
she did have me a tad mesmerized :)
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:18 PM
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3. Yeah, I feel that.
The don't give a shit the public is outraged, they declare the military of a sovereign country (nobody wants them to attack) is a terrorist organization, and turn the spy satellites onto the American people. The writing is on the wall for these guys.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:46 PM
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4. I've been feeling the gathering storm for months
It's the dead calm that precedes a moment of absolute terror and destruction.

The black clouds swirl above. A few flashes of heat lighting, but no sound. Stifling heat, with hints of freezing cold that comes and goes. The sky is dark as far as the eye can see...no hint of blue.

All that's left is to wait for the fury to come.
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loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:58 PM
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8. it was a dark and story night,
lol
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:01 PM
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13. It was :D
Fiction is the best vehicle to spread truth, IMO
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:23 PM
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22. "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August," White House Chief of S
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:24 PM by EVDebs
Staff Andy Card. The White House believes that same thing. They spread their bullshit in August however, and now here we are...

Marketing the Invasion of Iraq
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/Berkowitz_Stauber-Rampton-Review.htm

and now on to Iran. They've already wargamed this new fiasco btw and it's a failure too. Whoda thunk it.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 09:04 AM
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49. gj pointing the august thing out
Paving the way, so to speak.

The problem we've always had with this bunch is seeing things from their POV. In their eyes, I don't think Iraq was a failure, and I don't see that changing with Iran.

They don't care how many troops they kill or how this will hurt our economy(which is currently getting flushed anyway). They take and hold territory. They now hold Iraq, Afganistan and Pakistan by proxy dictator, and are closely allied with Saudi Arabia and Israel right now. If I were Iran right now, I'd be VERY nervous, even knowing that I could seriously hurt anyone who invaded.

Who knows what they have in mind from there, though. I can wargame with the best of them, but unless I have their press releases, I can't figure out what this bunch is up to from one minute to the next.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:15 PM
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58. Keeping Iraq's Oil in the Ground - Palast appears to be correct in his analysis
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/61/20480

"Today's fight over how much of Iraq's oil to produce (or suppress) simply extends into this century the last century's pump-or-control battles. In sum, Big Oil, whether in European or Arab-OPEC dress, has done its damned best to keep Iraq's oil buried deep in the ground to keep prices high in the air. Iraq has 74 known fields and only 15 in production; 526 known "structures" (oil-speak for "pools of oil"), only 125 drilled.

And they won't be drilled, not unless Iraq says, "Mother, may I?" to Saudi Arabia, or, as the James Baker/Council on Foreign Relations paper says, "Saudi Arabia may punish Iraq."
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:03 PM
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61. I've heard that
but one of the hallmarks of this administration is efficiency. Least effort put in for maximum gain. Best use of the damage they do to accomplish the most amount possible.

The best example of this is the Iraq war. They get a place to put their bases, the oil stays put, they can funnel tax money to their cronies, they can shred constitutional protections and they get the fear in this country necessary to continue.

I still haven't figured out their main goal, however, and that hinders my understanding of their methods. As Hannibal Lector points out to Clarice:


Dr. Lecter: First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?

Clarice: He kills women...

Dr. Lecter: No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does, what need does he serve by killing?

Clarice: Anger, social resentment, sexual frustration...

Dr. Lecter: No, he covets. That's his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? Make an effort to answer now.

Clarice: No. We just...

Dr. Lecter: No. We begin by coveting what we see every day. Don't you feel eyes moving over your body, Clarice? And don't your eyes seek out the things you want?


Were I to know what they REALLY wanted, I could predict their every move, like clockwork. We never stray from what we desire.


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:49 PM
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5. Yup, they're back!!! (in September) Ugh!
It's like waiting for the other shoe to fall.

What will they clobber over our heads this time??

My imagination wanders..... in fear.

Well written! Well said!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

:kick: & Recommended
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:52 PM
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6. People I have talked to who lived during the 1930's...
tell me it feels a lot like late 1938 or 1939. They knew something bad was coming, you could "feel it in your bones".
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:54 PM
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7. It's That Feeling You Have When.....
It's that feeling you have when you are riding a roller coaster.

You get to the very top of the first hill.

It's that feeling -- just before you start to accelerate toward the bottom.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:17 PM
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60. I almost put that one in!
:)
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TV Stevie Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:59 PM
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9. You forgot about the economic meltdown already underway
:patriot:

You know... massive infusions of taxpayer dollars from the Federal Reserve to prop up the banks and hedge funds, credit tightening and interest rates skyrocketing, dollar collapse as China unloads its trillion dollars in T-bills, business shutdowns, massive unemployment, runs on banks, and collapse of private pension funds.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:00 PM
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12. Hi TV Stevie. Welcome to DU!
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:28 PM
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37. Not to mention that the infusions aren't even working.
It's like giving blood transfusions to a dead guy - it's not going to help him, and the blood won't be available to save countless other lives.

A disaster is looming.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:36 AM
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53. Welcome to DU, TV Steve.
:hi: I'll add that if Cheney moves his money out of the country, isn't that the epitome of "insider trading"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1578942
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 05:59 PM
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10. I do.
I'm preparing for the worst.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:00 PM
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11. What gives me hope that this may soon be over is that I agree with
one of KO's guests last night who said that Bush likes to win, but does not like to govern. I believe that he is ready to bolt. All these speeches really dig into his tv and bedtime.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:03 PM
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14. No, there isn't the usual vapid shark attack stories in the news this summer. There's been actual
news and events being reported.

If it was the calm before the storm, we'd hear about the shark attack non-stop.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:55 PM
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15. Those executive orders...
I've had that feeling since the two in May that essentially created the framework for a national security state, and then the one on July 17th that essentially says BushCo can steal your stuff if you disagree with administration policy. I know that's not the wording, but that's certainly the intent.

I've assumed the NSA -- or another of the alphabet soup of agencies whose job it is to snoop on anyone and everyone -- has been spying on US citizens since the Reagan era, and probably through Clinton's terms as well, so I'm not greatly bothered by this latest outrage -- except that it's grossly unconstitutional and the Dems aided and abetted it every step of the way.

In my case, and I suspect the case of many here, all they have to do is read the posts. Nobody's making a secret of the fact that we detest BushCo and every single thing it stands for. They don't need to read my private email or listen to my calls to figure out where I stand.

But I'm troubled by those executive orders, by confirmed reports of Halliburton-built and equipped camps throughout the country, by the rumblings of Chertoff's gut and the desperate need for a terra event to salvage what's left of the GOP's credibility.

Then there's this latest outrage of declaring the army of a sovereign state a terrorist organization, with the obvious intent to extend the phony "war on terror" into Iran, using almost the exact same preposterous bullshit they used to whip the dull-normals into a flag-waving frenzy just prior to the Iraq invasion -- and look how well that's going.

They can retarget their satellites all they want; the most exciting thing they're likely to see at my place is me peeing off the deck a couple of times a year. And I doubt that's all the interesting at my age.

But the combined maliciousness of:

Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html


along with these Presidential Directives:

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51

HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html


along with Patriot Acts I and II, the Military Commissions Act and overt moves to cancel Posse Comitatus...


And you could make a pretty good case that we're seriously in the shit. And there aren't enough lawyers in the country -- incredible I could actually write that line -- to make a difference when going up against our brand new, repurposed Department of Justice.

Paranoid fantasies or realistic assessment? You can't really know until you stick your card in the ATM and find there's no money left in your accounts, and then the men in black show up with hand cuffs and shackles, and a few hours later you find yourself wearing a jump suit and sitting on a bunk bed just big enough for a small dog with your head in your hands wondering what the fuck just happened.


wp






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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:37 PM
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You think my moniker might be too overt for this political climate?
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:38 PM by BushDespiser12
:evilgrin:
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 10:51 AM
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50. I'm afraid so...
I'd go with something a little tamer, say: IHeartGeorgie4Ever12 or possibly: GeorgieIsMyLiegeLord12

Maybe the "12" is redundant, but I'd look into a subtle name change if I were you.


wp
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 02:26 AM
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67. I believe I have a solution...
it consists of 451... hmm, something held at a Fahrenheit temperature. Doh. Help me out here Agent Mike...
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:09 PM
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34. There is some small comfort that we have each other
Before i had this place i was a bit loony.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:50 AM
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57. You're connecting the dots,
and here's another one about Homeland Security enlisting the clergy to help "if" martial law is declared - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1599487

I don't know of anything to do to prepare for what's to come, other than be psychologically prepared for it, but the points you've outlined make it pretty obvious that they're planning something big. I'm concerned that the cabal may very well be using the August vacation to finalize whatever plans they've made. The closer it gets to September, the more apprehensive I become.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 06:58 PM
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16. You forget how staggeringly inept Republicans are. Everything they do fails.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 07:03 PM
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17. They're good at one thing though...
making people fucking miserable. They're world-class at that, which says to me they would be highly successful at running a fascist national security state. In fact, that's probably the only way they'll manage to achieve any political power for the next two or three decades after BushCo has made everyone except the rapture groupies miserable for years.

wp
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:03 PM
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18. I had that feeling during the 2000 election campaign
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:10 PM
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19. You describe a sense of deja vu --we have certainly been here before....
.... and most of us remember that there was a time when we could have done something to change things before it was too late.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:55 PM
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33. Can you please elaborate? ...
I'm just curious because I've been around a long time and have been here before and did what I could to change things against a very powerful enemy. Sometimes we succeeded, but sadly, oftentimes we didn't. H
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 08:54 PM
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63. I'm Sure I Haven't Been HERE Before.
You describe a sense of deja vu --we have certainly been here before....


I don't think *I* have. Is this a collective "we" or are you really really old?

.... and most of us remember that there was a time when we could have done something to change things before it was too late.


I cannot imagine what. Even with 20:20 hindsight I cannot imagine what.

Most of us did what we could.

We lost.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:21 PM
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21. I wonder if this is the big standoff?
They have all the pieces in place for their "big move". But I think they know that there's a very low public tolerance for another "bold act".

The blogs and other internet sources are slowly ferreting out the misdeeds of this administration. Even the MSM has allowed some truth to slip past. Not enough, but sufficient to cause extreme mistrust. If they would even report on a THIRD of the despicable acts already done, the torches and pitchforks would come out.

They could start right now. But they're not. They must be afraid of SOMETHING.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:16 AM
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42. They're Not Afraid of Anything. They Don't Want to Introduce a "New Product" in August
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 09:30 PM
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65. "The big standoff"...that's what it feels like to me too.
I have felt the tension building, and YES, they have all their ducks in a row. They have been carefully positioning them for years now, and we've all seen them doing it. But the public anger and awareness are greater too, at least from what I've been seeing on DU. I'm not sure how much we represent the public at large, and it's for damn sure the corporate media isn't going to tell us. They've been calling us the "far left" for years now, even though we represent 70% of the population.

They could find they've bit off more than they can chew if they try to make their police state a reality.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:24 PM
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23. Go to hell, Andy Card.
To have the same impact as 9/11 -- terrifying people, paralyizing the
country, have everyone licking Bush's boots -- the attack this time would
need to be on an order of magnitude more serious than 9/11 -- 30,000 people
at least dying instead of just 3,000.

Bush at heart is a bully and thus a coward. Could Cheney really get away
with it a second time?

That's the question I can't answer.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:24 PM
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24. I do!
:hide:

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:28 PM
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25. Add in it is legal to FORCE electroshock..in NY.
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:29 PM by undergroundpanther
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:38 AM
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54. They better bring a whole lotta guys in white coats to get me for that
310 pounds of crazy can do a lot of damage.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:30 PM
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26. To borrow a line scribbled on a wall in the movie 28 Days Later:
"The End is Extremely Fucking Nigh"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:35 PM
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27. Ayep
been having a feeling of opression and fear, the last I don't let it overcome me

But, also of extreme frustration at how some folks still justify the demos skulking in the corner and saying Aye Massa to the FISA abomination
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:37 PM
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28. not me
And I'm pretty intuitive.

Maybe I'm just so tired and worn out over waiting for the other shoe to drop that I couldn't recognize it if it did.

I think some psychic predictions have said that the U.S. economy will go into a recession/depression in the fall of this year and that is when people will have finally had it with bush.

But I've been watching this sorry saga with bush since he stole the elections and nothing ever happens. Things just keep plugging along.



Cher
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:39 PM
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29. Due to the subprime ponzi scheme
the economy is starting to unravel and we have economists now speaking of a consumer caused recession... cute, I know, ah the spin
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:32 PM
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39. I know what you mean, but...
things have been "plugging along" mostly due to the average American's belief that our economy can't possibly fail. That erroneous belief have caused us to dig our hole deeper and deeper. By the time Joe Sixpack realizes he was wrong, it's going to be too late.

It's already too late.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:42 PM
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30. Aye, the air is thick with a forboding calm. And
http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia">yonder rustles a growing fear.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:50 PM
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31. The world trembles as it did in the 1930s. What rough beast, it's hour come 'round
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:50 PM by tom_paine
at last, slouches towarsd Bethlehem to be born.

So says Yeats and we are living it.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:24 PM
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35. hell, it feels like
just another day under the new regime and their gestapo tactics... the only thing I cannot figure is at what point does the public take to the streets... perhaps when they start doing anal probes for routine traffic stops? whatever is upon us, my guess is there fear is upon them... no one goes to this much trouble to hide, spy, listen, watch ... desperation and fear is upon them and the rest of us are simply living yet another day of fascism.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:25 PM
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36. My brother in law told me that he saw
a poll where 95% of Americans were satisfied with their lives

Now I will try to track it down

but if true.

That is why Americans have not taken to the streets
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:35 PM
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40. cannot be true
impossible... even in the best of times you could not get that many people to be satisfied with their lives
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:43 PM
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41. That can't possibly be true
unless, of course, the poll only asked the top 1%. Even at THAT, it can't be possible that anyone would get that figure. It's still true, money doesn't buy happiness. Sure, they rich don't have to worry about food/clothing/shelter in the same way that regular people do, but their money does not buy happiness - as a matter of fact, extreme wealth almost works against it.

My 2 cents.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 01:01 AM
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44. Will have to tell him to send me the data
been searching and cannot find it


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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 09:48 PM
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66. Very well said, Larisa. That's what I've been picking up on too.
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 09:54 PM by Raksha
whatever is upon us, my guess is there fear is upon them... no one goes to this much trouble to hide, spy, listen, watch ... desperation and fear is upon them and the rest of us are simply living yet another day of fascism.

Fear and desperation are upon them and in a way they are being pushed to act, to create yet another crisis. They sense that their karma is rapidly catching up with them and they are running out of time. You can take all the high-profile events of the last week or so as evidence:

1. Diebold election systems changes its name in order to distance itself from the parent company;

2. At least three Republican congress critters announce they won't seek re-election;

3. Conyers releases the transcript of Mueller's testimony about Gonzales;

4. Bush declares the Iranian Republican Guard a "terrorist organization";

5. The credit market almost self-destructs because of subprime home loans, and the rumblings are felt throughout the world markets;

6. Karl Rove suddenly discovers he needs to spend more time with his family...

Okay, somebody else add to the list! That was just off the top of my head, but there has to more. All is NOT well in BushWorld, not by a long way!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:31 PM
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38. I am now comfortably numb.
And I don't think that is a good thing, it is just what it is. :shrug:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:45 AM
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43. I've been having that feeling for some time now
There are breaks now and then where I have some hope, but then the feeling returns. Everything feels different, smells different, tastes different. Its not just one thing. It is like everything is racing out of control and it may be too late to slow it down before it all erupts.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 06:20 AM
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46. Nah there is nothing going on.
Move along now, nothing to see here.

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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 06:24 AM
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47. Don't worry. It's just the new satellite surveillance.
It gives you the creeps at first.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 08:06 AM
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48. I share your feeling
and it does not feel good.

I feel utterly betrayed by Congress, and I keep wondering if we should be renewing our passports and packing our bags., just in case.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:03 AM
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51. Don't worry, it is not about your feelings. Maybe, you have been reading too much DU!
You could be having an early case of Rovian withdrawls. :rofl:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:30 AM
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52. I feel the same way. Something very, very ugly is brewing.
What does this administration have planned? It's a sad commentary when you fear your own president and his winged monkeys more than you fear other non-domestic terrorists.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:45 AM
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55. "And what rough beast,"
",its time come round at last, slouches toward Bethlehem to be born"
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 11:49 AM
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56. No, but I feel the hyperbole though.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 04:21 AM
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68. Glad to see you're living in such an enchanted world
Perhaps you could give us all an invite sometime.
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 12:55 PM
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69. Nope, not an enchanted world, just reality. Yeah, you guys have it rough, you just live better then
99.9% of the rest of the world. Keep things in perspective. Are there problems and concerns that need to be worked against. Sure. But I fail to see how it's "the beginning of the end".
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:17 PM
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59. I realize my post was a little melodramatic - but that is honestly how I feel

Something just seems very wrong...
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 04:06 PM
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62. Great post!. But things could also just as rapidly change for the
better. The machine, those working in and for the machine, could see the truth of the matter and turn against the dark side.
Remember when Darth Vader tossed the emperor down the air shoot?

:hi:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 08:59 PM
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64. But That Only Happens in the Movies
in real life

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