Happy Birthday President Bill Clinton and Mrs. Tipper Gore

Happy Birthday to two great people who have done so much for our country, and our world----President Bill Clinton and Mrs. Tipper Gore

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the only good thing about that debacle was the utter bitch slapping that she got at the hands of both Dee Snyder and Frank Zappa.

I worked for Sound Warehouse back then and the kids in the store were relieved when those stickers were put on certain CD's. Yes it's true, they weren't getting yelled at by irate and silly customers who actually thought kids on the floor were responsible for selling, writing and distributing these CD's to an unknowing public.

Let it go.

any number of things... but Godwin's Law is a harsh mistress, so instead I'll simply suggest WTF! Why should the inevitability of a thing excuse complicity? That's just daft.

It's a sticker, not an outright ban.

Why should an unknowing parent, grandparent, acquaintance or any consumer purchase something that they will inevitably bring back due to what they deem offensive content? Why shouldn't consumers be informed about music? Why should employees of music retailers be subject to verbal abuse from irate customers? We're informed about food ingredients, country of origin, fabric content and movie content, etc....

To argue that music is somehow off limits inform consumers of content is outdated. Don't you want to be informed? I do, I don't want to purchase music where women are referred to as ho's, the "n" word is used often. Kids are very impressionable when it comes to their music. Joni Mitchell got me through my teens, early twenty's. I'm grateful to many artists for their insightful lyrics. Those who advocate racism, disrespect towards women and violence...not so much.

Are you angry at Russell Simmons? After all, he is asking rap artists to refrain from using derogatory lyrics:

Simmons, the pioneering entrepreneur whose label has released music by Public Enemy, Run DMC and the Beastie Boys, objects to the use of "nigger", "ho" and "bitch". http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6586787.stm?dynamic_vote=ON#vote_6587933

that sticker only came about because of the outrageous and anti-scientific claims by these idiots were given a public voice by ignorant little jerks like Tipper Gore. OOOOO music lyrics will lead to drug abuse and teen suicide and so on... Fascist assholes. Their attitude led to the right wing Christian takeover of America.

were all of you drunk in the 1980s or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center

It was an affront to the constitution and Tipper was a major player. Her role in that will never be forgiven.

People so over-reacted to that. If people have forgotten it's because we are now facing REAL affronts to the Constitution.

the PMRC was disgusting and she should be ashamed of herself. Perhaps you consider protecting free expression an over-reaction, but I don't. The groupthink mentality of PMRC is part of the milieu that eventually made Gonzalez et al morally acceptable to the majority of Americans (because if it wasn't morally acceptable to the majority, he would have been impeached already). The PMRC was the thin end of the wedge. If it hadn't been driven into the American consciousness, there's no way that the shit we see today would have been possible. It was the metaphorically unclean tractor seat that led to an embarrassing venereal disease.

and don't know every song ever written from the 80's on, I think many of us have looked for that Advisory Sticker when we've purchased music for our kids and others.

Say your 12 year old kid has been invited to a birthday party, would you purchase his/her 12 year old friend CD's riddled with racist lyrics and fuck, whore, ho, bitch?

Jesus. What parent is making music choices for a 12 year old? That's a one way ticket to lame.

I haven't forgotten her involvement in the antifreedom, pro-censorship "PMRC" movement of the 80s. Love that Al, though.

that's a bit harsh.

Still I know that she was very much one of the people who pushed for the labeling of music, but if you do a little reading you will find out that she wasn't the first person to suggest that it happen. She along with the PMRC finally pushed this through.



Explicit Lyrics & Parental Advisory
Tipper Gore, the PMRC, and the infamous black-and-white logo: Background material and news articles

The Recording Industry Association of America, which represents the majority of record labels in the country, has posted a black-and-white logo, warning of explicit content, on album covers since 1985.

The history behind Parental Advisory and the infamous logo can be found in the book ‘A Brief History of Banned Music in the United States’, by Eric Nuzum (2001)

After years of pressure from the Parents' Music Resource Center (PMRC) and a series of Senate hearings in 1985, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) introduced, in 1990, a uniform labeling system using the logo, "Parental Advisory - Explicit Lyrics."

The RIAA initiated this system without providing record companies with any standards, criteria or guidelines for determining what albums should be labeled. That decision is left completely up to the companies, which have chosen to label only selected rock and rap albums and not recordings of country music, opera or musical comedy that may also contain controversial material.

in order to get the Tipper Sticker put through, they argued all sorts of unscientific, hysterical nonsense, and grossly misinterpreted countless song lyrics to suit their own sadistic mentalities. It was a dark blot on the US and was a direct ancestor of the right wing Christian bullshit that attempts to control expression today. The mentality behind the Tipper Sticker is the same one that ruined the National Endowment for the Arts and has so crippled American cultural expression.

No. She doesn't get a pass on this. That was a fascism pure and simple.

the reminder and Happy Birthday!!!

or had you forgotten her role in that?