So What?

I've heard this particular excuse enough, and now I want some answers.



So Congress does not want to pursue contempt charges against Bush, because it will take too long?

SO WHAT?

Senator Leahy states he "wants answers, so that this does not happen again."

Seems to me the answers he wants will come out in the 5-6 years a court battle will take, so I don't see a downside to pursuing contempt charges now.

The only other option, I suppose, is to make further strong statements and petulantly suck our thumbs while the Bush administration thumbs their noses at the Constitution, and Congress, and the rest of us.

If it takes 5-6 years fighting in court to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen again, then why aren't we already doing it? Are the instant gratification forces in the Democratic party determined to have "their" victory? What about the Constitution?

These, and many other, questions need to be answered by our Democratic Senators and Representatives.

SO WHAT? So what if it takes 5-6 years? Is this too much an investment in the defense of our Constitution, or what?

Somebody needs to start making sense...

Because it is Bush, and his family is an integral part of the military industrial complex, no more, no less.

He's a war criminal, but he appears to be immune.

So why are you blaming them?

It's fine to impeach Clinton for a BJ, but Bush and his cabal repeatedly violate the law and the Constitution, yet all Dems can offer us is platitudes and excuses for not doing their sworn duty to uphold and defend the Constitution?

I think we have the right to expect our Democratic Senators and Representatives to FOLLOW THE LAW - or offer us a LEGAL reason for not doing so - which would be following the law. So far, all we get from them is weak-ass excuses like the one I mention in my post.

It's just that they can't get anywhere because BushCo is above that same law. You can't make a broad brush judgment of the Dems when the targets aren't abiding by ANY rules at all.

Oh, and this has nothing to do with Clinton's bullshit impeachment. Where did that come from?

seem unable to do anything, even with a congressional majority

That's something, even if BushCo ignores it all.

That's my whole point, they are doing something (just not impeachment, yet). Why do so many people ignore the work the Dems are doing?

and its making America look very ugly.

And when an administration is not held accountable for repeatedly lying, spying, and starting an illegal occupation people start to get really mad.

I say impeach the hell out of them. Contempt of congress? Absofuckinglutely. I am sooooo sick of hearing this executive privelige bullshit :puke:

This admin truly thinks they are above every law my ancestors fought and died for, and my other ancestors (Natives) were killed for. So we damn well owe it to ourselves to stand up this country.

They are not following the law - they are following their re-election politics. They've allowed Bush multiple excuses on this stuff, and continue to let him slide, in total contrast to their treatment of Clinton's administration, particularly during the imperachment, when many Democrats joined Republicans in the witch hunt.

Unless they are following the letter of the law when the law is repeatedly broken, then Dems in Congress are aiding and abetting an outlaw administration.

You act as if Bush has only jaywalked or something. His crimes have caused the deaths of untold thousands of people. If he'd only jaywalked, I'd agree with you. But the level of criminality requires full exercise of the law - which Dems are making excuses for, instead of taking action.

Your excuse that Bush is above the law is the same bullshit the Dems in Congress ladle out. NO ONE is above the law, if we all agree to that principle.

this administration is making the Dems look too weak to run an automatic car wash

Whining isn't going to help matters.

and text my thoughts to my representatives. And I talk to everyone who will listen. And I raise my children as democrats.

Some day, when I'm retired and the kids are off to college I will try to do more :bounce: