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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:10 PM
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America land of He who loves the least, controls the most.
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 01:18 PM by undergroundpanther
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools. Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless. You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world. You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences, will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life? What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)? The answer will depend largely on just what your desires happen to be, because people are not all the same. Even the profoundly unscrupulous are not all the same. Some people - whether they have a conscience or not - favor the ease of inertia, while others are filled with dreams and wild ambitions.
http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm

With all the “conspiracy” theories regarding the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill, that symbol is actually the perfect mascot for history’s aristocracy and elites. The pyramid’s apex, divided from the base and hovering above it, with the all-seeing eye as its emblem - all-knowing via databases and panoptical technologies - the “apex” believe they should rule over all life. They perceive themselves as so superior to 99% of mankind that their needs, desires, and whims come above and beyond all living things on Earth.

They believe that wealth = superior intelligence and pecking order. They believe in enforced power, elite bloodlines, bloodshed, and enslavements of any kind. Historically, they are interesting people because their agendas have been quite few. Supporting and maintaining wealth is key to who they have been, who they are, and why they do what they do. They have been so deranged by senses of superiority that their greatest fears are of the commoner. As their superiority has deadened their souls to Godliness, any and all crime becomes subservient to their desires. Many, if not most (and throughout all written history), become sociopaths without consciences to curb their desires and missions.

They are fascinating people because they live (and lived) terrified lives. They live in a world of cover-ups, lies, backstabbing, secrets, theft, schemes, falseness, and murder – all the while trying to keep a public face of control, authority and expertise, social integrity, automatic intelligence, and composure. They live in a world where trust, friendships, and loyalties are purchased by the highest bidder. They are neurotic, pathological, and very dangerous. They live in unending fear of exposure of who and what they are and, specifically, what they do and have done.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy103.htm

"The relationship between goodness and happiness, between wickedness and punishment is so strong that given one of these conditions, the other is frequently assumed. Misfortune, sickness, accident are often taken as signs of badness and guilt. If one is unfortunate, then he has committed a sin." (Heider, 1958, p.235).
http://www.units.muohio.edu/psybersite/justworld/interpersonal.shtml
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n2/justworld.html

Unlike the rest of us, Bush doesn't have to worry about how he's going to pay for his health care. He doesn't have to haggle with greedy HMOs. He doesn't have to spend sleepless nights, worrying about what will happen if he or a member of his family has a catastrophic health-care crisis. He doesn't have to wait in line to get treatment.
In fact, Bush doesn't even need to lift a finger to see a doctor. All he's got to do is give the word, and a world-class physician will come to see him in the White House, any time he wants, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

In other words, Bush is living in a different universe than the rest of us.

http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/labels/GOP%20hypocr...

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0726-11.htm

Has the narcissism of the market destroyed our sense of collective identity? Psychiatrist Trevor Turner argues that a preoccupation with self has spawned a new syndrome: malignant self-actualization.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JQP/is_2003_Apr...

There had to be a “change in spiritual and intellectual values from an emphasis on such values as thrift, modesty, and moderation, toward a value system that encouraged spending and ostentatious display.” (p.21) This was seen especially from 1880 to 1930.
Robbins further details how religious movements, which became known as “mind cure religions”, became (quoting research from William Leach) “wish-oriented, optimistic, sunny, the epitome of cheer and self-confidence, and completely lacking in anything resembling a tragic view of life.”
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Consumption/Rise.asp

It is our hypothesis, backed by the work of Andrew Lobaczewski and our own research, that the people in power on our planet have plans to kill off a large portion of the world's population. The psychopaths, those human-looking predators without conscience, have no love for the rest of humanity. It is a life and death struggle between them and us because they know that if the true nature of their existence as humanity's natural predator ever come to light, they would lose everything. Every once in awhile, their real aims slip through the filters and appear in the media.

http://ponerology.blogspot.com/2006/09/pathocrat-speaks...
No shit..kill people,How else could these insane elitist policies that are destroying the life of the UN-Elite like health care make sense ?
http://sas.org/tcs/weeklyIssues_2006/2006-04-07/feature...
We must abandon the practice of..
"He who loves the least, controls the most."
In various experiments conducted by Professor Oswald on relationships between wealth and happiness he found that some two thirds of people were willing to reduce what they had if it meant others would lose out and be worse off.

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Consumption/Rise.asp#Consumerismdrivesmostaspectsofourlivestoday

Was that 2/3rds people with psychopathic tendancies narcissism or authoritarianism in thier personality make up? The study does not say.
Here are some links to people trying to unravel this mess and find solutions to ground this INVERTED society.
t-economy.com/theory.html
http://www.humiliationstudies.org/index.php
http://groups.msn.com/PSYCHOPATH/6.msnw
http://a4a.mahost.org/reason.html
http://ranprieur.com/
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:19 PM
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1. love of money is the root of evil ---
something like that :shrug:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:21 PM
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2. Love of power corrupts
And in a market system money is power/Control.

You could rephrase that to say people who love control and domination above life itself are the root of all evil.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:24 PM
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3. yeah!!
what they said :bounce:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:32 PM
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4. I didn't read much of the Book of Job, but that sounds like a commentary on an excerpt from it.
"The relationship between goodness and happiness, between wickedness and punishment is so strong that given one of these conditions, the other is frequently assumed. Misfortune, sickness, accident are often taken as signs of badness and guilt. If one is unfortunate, then he has committed a sin." (Heider, 1958, p.235).

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 01:41 PM
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5. Social Darwinism, a form of psychopathy n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:39 PM
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6. The ones who are left behind, and need the most, are the ones who will perish.
What is astounding me so much about "liberals" is the lack of interest in those of us who can no longer "make it" on our own. Yes, sharp words are said about how the war is causing the reduction of $$$$ for social programs, but when it comes to requests to SUPPORT programs, there is an amazing silence.

There is lack of understanding and support for those on the edge.

So, I would say that the death of conscience has probably already happened, and those of us most vulnerable won't survive it.

We don't have to look for to notice exactly what you're writing about.

Does it matter?

I'm guessing the lack of responses to this thread answers that question.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:54 PM
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7. what you describe really fits another entity
The corporation. It has no conscience. No remorse. No guilt.

When I crushed cardboard at the Kraft plant, I was reminded of the movie "The Terminator" where the heroine crushes the terminator in some kind of compacting machine. The quote when Reese described the terminator seemed very apropo to our society, and to the company. Once a supervisor gave a talk about safety saying something like "If you get your hand or fingers in a machine, it will grind them up. That machine has no consideration for you as a person." And I thought, 'it's alot like management then' and my co-workers laughingly agreed.

Reese: "Listen, and understand. That Terminator is out there. It cannot be bargained with. It cannot be reasoned with. It doesn't know remorse, or fear, or pity. And it absolutely WILL. NOT. STOP. EVER!!! until you are dead!" (meaning, until it has killed you.)
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