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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:06 PM
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Help please? What is this speculation about Hillary getting rid of Dr. Dean?
I'm working again, so I have some trouble keeping up, but I come home tonight and my Libertarian, read that anti-Everyone, spouse says Tucker Carlson said Hillary would have Howard Dean fired as soon as possible if she is nominated.

What is that prediction based on?

??????????????????????

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:07 PM
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1. Howard Dean could break her in half
:hide:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:07 PM
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2. Tucker's desire to stir up shit and make statements based
on the sand in his head.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:08 PM
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3. Yep.
He's full of shit.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:16 PM
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10. Whining, rightwing asshole, is Fucker.
Liar, too.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:18 PM
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11. One might suspect
that Tucker would like to start a rumor to cause divisions within the democratic party. But, no, he wouldn't do that, would he?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 07:06 PM
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23. "rightwing asshole" is redundant.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:09 PM
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4. Spouse should consider the source n/t
n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:09 PM
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5. That's nothing but Tucker Talk...Tucker's wishful thinking. Tell your spouse
to switch the channel!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:10 PM
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6. Wouldn't be surprising.They are politcal opposites in many ways.Dean
has come to represent the anti elite and Hillary is poltics as usual and the "elite".
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:13 PM
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7. I bet the Clintonites would love to dig Terry McAuliffe up and install him back in that post.
Chairman Dean has been too successful for that to happen, I hope.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:19 PM
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12. I think they have reason to be afraid of what IS happening.
People ARE coming together on the *Issues*; the parties will have to WORK for their votes.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:14 PM
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8. I think the good Doctor has more support than Hils.
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 06:15 PM by acmavm
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:16 PM
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9. My husband says Tucker claims she has said something to someone
on this topic.

God!! I shouldn't listen to their BS, but HOW does someone say such things on national TV and get away with it, unless there's something, no matter how indirect, to it? Yes, ABSOLUTELY, they DO lie, but it's usually by twisting things, so I'm wondering what is being twisted.

Please don't ridicule me for wondering; this is very important to me. Just telling me to ignore it sounds too much like "drink the kool-aid".

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:21 PM
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13. Contact her campaign office. Ask them for a comment on it.
I'm sure if it's just a lie made up by Tucker it'll take them no time at all to sort it out.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:25 PM
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17. I'm going to have to dig up exactly what he said first.
Then, I think I will give that a try.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:22 PM
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14. I would say this qualifies as a rumor
How much energy do you want to give to a rumor? Someone (you?) should ask HRC if she would change the chair of the party if she were the nominee. She probably wouldn't answer - but hey, what else can you do?
Rumors aren't worth spending much time on, imho.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:39 AM
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25. Answers to this are best sought from Dem activists, not twits like Tucker
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3455706

Short summary--we can probably keep the 50 state strategy if we fight for it. Clinton may not be on our side here, but she may not be able to ignore us.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:24 PM
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15. If memory serves....
Dr. Dean made Mr. Clinton a believer in his strategy for 06 prior to the elections. Whatever spews from the mouth of Tucker Carlson should be assumed to have come from his ass as well.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:24 PM
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16. Remember after the election last November?
Carville was all over the place saying Dean has to go. Of course Hillary wants him out...Carville wouldn't have been saying that otherwise.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:50 PM
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22. Yeah, I remember him saying that.
I could NOT understand it at the time, seeing as how the Dems had just won a majority of both houses! Where the hell was he coming from?! Maybe this explains it.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:33 PM
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18. As I recall, there was a lot of speculation in the 2004
primaries that W. Clark was a "stalking horse" for Clintons to prevent a Dean win. The speculation involved worry that Hillary wouldn't get to run in 08 if Dean won. So before Kerry won Iowa, there were many who feared a Dean success--.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:42 PM
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19. Hey, these chairs get changed every few years anyway
The average chairmanship at the DNC seems to be 2-4 years--so Tucker's "prediction" aint exactly rocket science. And I doubt that Dean wants this as a lifetime job anyway.

Here's a list of chairs and their tenure at the DNC since the 60s; there have been six different chairs since 1995 alone--but a particular dearth of WOMEN! My prediction: if Clinton makes it to the WH, she'll push for a "girl":


Henry M. Jackson (1960-1961) Washington
John M. Bailey (1961-1968) Connecticut
Lawrence F. O'Brien (1968-1969) Massachusetts
Fred R. Harris (1969-1970) Oklahoma
Lawrence F. O'Brien (1970-1972) Massachusetts
Jean Westwood (1972) Utah
Robert S. Strauss (1972-1977) Texas
Kenneth M. Curtis (1977-1978) Maine
John C. White (1978-1981) Texas
Charles T. Manatt (1981-1985) California
Paul G. Kirk, Jr. (1985-1989) Massachusetts
Ron Brown (1989-1993) New York
David Wilhelm (1993-1994) Ohio
Debra DeLee (1994-1995) Massachusetts
Donald Fowler (1995-1997) South Carolina
Christopher J. Dodd1 (1995-1997) Connecticut
Steven Grossman (1997-1999) Massachusetts
Joseph Andrew (1999-2001) Indiana
Roy Romer1 (1999) Colorado
Edward G. Rendell1 (1999-2001) Pennsylvania
Terrence R. McAuliffe (2001-2005) Virginia
Howard Dean (2005-) Vermont
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:42 PM
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20. why are YOU spreading unsubtantiated rumors with NO credibity? nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 12:43 AM
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24. Sheesh.The OP SAID "it was unsubstatiated".That hardly qualifies as "spreading a rumor"
TheOP asked for info based on what they heard.Since when is that a crime?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:46 PM
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21. First ... the Carlson boy is a cartoon character. Secind, he is paid to be a court jester and fool
Part of that playing the fool is spewing shit like this.

Its his job.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:41 AM
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26. I bet its true.
I've always felt the Clinton's had it out for Howard Dean. It's the main reason I started to become...disenchanted with them shall we say. The Clinton's have never been about people power or about the internet. They are into the consultant class and Washington pundits. jmho.
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