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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:54 AM
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Green cards now easier for Cubans born abroad
Source: Miami Herald

The United States has made it easier for people born to
Cuban parents outside Cuba to obtain green cards under
the Cuban Adjustment Act.


A recent decision by federal immigration authorities will make it much easier for people born outside Cuba to obtain a U.S. green card if at least one of their parents was born in Cuba.

Under the decision, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will no longer require that those born outside Cuba file documents specifically saying they are Cuban citizens. Cuban consular papers saying they are children of at least one Cuban parent will be enough to prove Cuban citizenship.

The July 31 decision is likely to benefit thousands of foreign nationals born abroad of Cuban parents -- particularly Venezuelans whose parents fled Cuba shortly after Fidel Castro seized power in 1959.

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The Vázquez case reverses a June 2006 decision that restricted green cards to foreign nationals who could produce Cuban documents specifically saying they were Cuban citizens.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/top_stories/story/211069.html



So, now persons who are not Cuban citizens - or not even born in Cuban - can now instantly get a US green card using the Cuban Adjusment Act.

:crazy:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:58 AM
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1. But if they weren't born as broads, how will they still get cards?
I mean, who'd perform the operation?

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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 08:40 AM
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2. So, is the intent to open the CAA to the Venezuelan elite?
Give us your poor...i mean rich
Give us your hungry...i mean fattened
Give us your huddled masses yearning to be free...i mean elite yearning to be overlords.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 08:42 AM
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3. This is so gross. What a racket they're running in South Florida.
I suppose there's no chance they won't ALSO be receiving the full complement of instant legal freedom from arrest and deportation, unlike all other nationalities, and they WILL be receiving instant access to US taxpayer-financed Section 8 Housing, food stamps, welfare, medical treatment, social security, etc., etc., etc., just like the economic immigrants from Cuba!

In case anyone doubts this obnoxious mega-handout going on in South Florida, please take a moment to review this article on Florida Senator Rudy Garcia's grandmother who got 6 employees fired for rudeness when she went to pick up the food stamps she enjoys:
Stalin Would Be Proud
And only Kafka could have dreamed up a character like Rudy Garcia
By Tristram Korten
Published: May 1, 2003

The dismissal of six workers from a local office of the Department of Children and Families is one of the most surreal governmental dramas to play itself out in some time. Certainly you recall the incident. On March 4 an aide to state Sen. Rudy Garcia was accompanying the senator's 94-year-old grandmother to the Hialeah DCF office to inquire about her food-stamp eligibility. The aide, Francis Aleman, claims she and Garcia's abuela were treated rudely. She complained to DCF brass in Tallahassee and voilà, everyone up the chain of command got the axe. Garcia happens to sit on two committees that fund and supervise DCF, and the senate is about to vote to confirm DCF Secretary Jerry Regier's permanent appointment.

Two of the fired employees had not even worked at the Hialeah office for one and a half months. They never saw, heard, or talked to the grandmother. The day they were canned they must have felt like characters in a Kafka novel, complete with self-important politicians (and their aides), obsequious bureaucrats, and a labyrinthine system so mindless that once set in motion, it couldn't be stopped.
(snip/...)
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2003-05-01/news/stalin-would-be-proud/

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Mika, I had heard that Republican Representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart, and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen were working as hard as they could to get these butt heads onto the U.S. government gravy train. This is THE PITS.

This will get us all off to a rip roaring start this morning! What a filthy trick by these right-wing control-freak gravy-train hounds. I'm certain they will be bringing up all KINDS of cheap "Cuban" Venezuelan labor from Venezuela to work for them in South Florida, now that they are getting the system to work for them, and the taxpayers are on the hook to help foot the bill.

Thanks. I think.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:05 AM
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4. Unheard of prejudice and favors - 48 years of it.
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:07 AM by higher class
Generous money provided at the time of exile, landing, or immigration.
Unbelievable loans (gifts) to start businesses.
A most generous list of immigration regulations ever provided by Democrat and Republican elected officials with Cuban-Americans writing the laws.
Untold money directed at Cuban-American foundations in a mini-lining the pocket benefit.
Untold money directed to propaganda in the form of radio and tv (against Castro / to get rid of him) aimed at Cuba, Central America, and the Caribbean.
Lots of money and training being directed for terrorists including the possible assassination of Kennedy (or all three K's?) and bombing innocents right out of the sky, to espionage against Castro and tourists to Cuba - much of it a failure.
Ridiculous embargos and fines.
Hosting, hiring, and protecting Cuban-American terrorists.

The truth hurts.

No immigrant group has been as privileged by the U.S. Government and its leaders as the Cuban-Americans. No immigrant group has been as restricted or has received as much derision as Haitians and Mexicans (Mexicans for many people includes Guatemalans and Central Americans.) (Haitians - imprisoned at Guantanamo - some call it detained.)

I say this to highlight the crappy way we treat others and the crime that has gone on to favor Cuban-Americans.

Cuban-Americans - a gift to the mix of people of the United States - but with diplomatic, propaganda, espionage disasters because of the way we handled it all, expecially the inequality.

Democrats are equally to blame, but didn't get hardly any votes to show for it - for 48 years.

Failed snd messed up State Department and elected official oversite - for 48 years. (But nice campaign contributions.)

Let's try to give the same to Haitians to prove all these words are wrong.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:11 AM
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5. I thought you favored an expedited process for granting US visas for Cubans
n/t
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:24 AM
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6. I do. Problem is, these persons aren't in Cuba nor Cuban born nor Cuban citizens.
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:28 AM by Mika
Plus, they aren't in Cuba, so for what reason do they have a claim for "defection"?

Their goal is to get to the US, for when they do (now) they are covered and granted a plethora of perks offered only to those who qualify for the Cuban Adjustment Act. They aren't "escaping" Cuba, and some have never even been there, but yet, this new policy treats them as if they are Cuban citizens "escaping" Cuba.

Cubans (and now non Cubans of Cuban descent) are a special class of Americans and residents.

IMO, this is constitutionally unacceptable. This violates the 'equal protection' clause.

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:37 AM
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7. equal protection applies to US citizens
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:39 AM by Bacchus39
I do not believe it is defection since they don't need to escape from the third country. they are free to go IF they get a green card. seems to me a very minor change in procedure. If the people already have in their possession documentation that says one of their parent is Cuban, why do they need to file papers declaring that this is true.

now, the prohibition of American citizens from going to Cuba but allowing Cuban Americans to go is another issue.

children born to Americans oversees are Americans. Cubans, well, I don't know how their system works.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:42 AM
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8. The US constitution applies to citizens and residents.
So, now if a person claims that one of their parents is/was Cuban then no further check is necessary? They get all of the perks offered by the Cuban Adjustment Act even if they've never been to/in Cuba - without any background check?
:wtf:

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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:59 AM
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10. no, it says they have to supply the required documention
verifying that they are Cuban. all it changes is a requirement for declaring themselves to be Cuban.

if they get a Green card then they are entitled to all that brings with it. the Cuban Adjustment Act would make no difference.

non-US citizens are NOT entitled to all the rights and protections of the Constitution.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:55 AM
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9. Venezuelans, married to Cubans, can bring their families into the US w/this new policy.
I just spoke with a Venezuelan woman who works next door to my office who said that because she is married to a Cuban-American, NOW she can bring her Venezuelan family over to the US under this new Cuban Adjustment Act policy change. They are very excited about this because they can get bumped to the head of the line for Sec 8 housing (that includes a $41,000 income exemption under the Cuban Adj Act), welfare, social security, and other perks that the Cuban Adjustment Act now entitles them to. Her family is Venezuelan, not Cuban, but they qualify because she got married to a Cuban in Miami.

Wow. A well subsidized ride for them on the US taxpayer's back. :mad:

And many think that the Castrophobes and Chavezphobes hate socialism. :eyes:


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