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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:31 PM
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Poll question: Would you fully support a Presidential candidate who favored:
Would you fully support a Presidential candidate who favored:
  • Creating a single-payer system of universal health care that provides full coverage for all Americans by passage of the United States National Health Insurance Act.
  • The immediate withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq; replacing them with an international security force.
  • Guaranteed quality education for all; including free pre-kindergarten and college for all who want it.
  • Immediate withdrawal from the World Trade Organization (WTO) and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
  • Repealing the USA PATRIOT Act.
  • Fostering a world of international cooperation.
  • Abolishing the death penalty.
  • Environmental renewal and clean energy.
  • Preventing the privatization of social security.
  • Providing full social security benefits at age 65.
  • Ratifying the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
  • Introducing reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting.
  • Protecting a woman's right to choose while decreasing the number of abortions performed in the U.S.
  • Ending the war on drugs.
  • Legalizing same-sex marriage.
  • Creating a balance between workers and corporations.
  • Ending the H1B and L1 Visa Programs
  • Restoring rural communities and family farms.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:37 PM
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1. Would it matter if I supported such a candidate? Would they be likely to win the election?
I think the real question isn't whether any of these positions are deal breakers (I'd be surprised if any of them were), but if failure to hold these positions should be a deal breaker.

I favor reforming WTO and NAFTA rather than destroying them. I think that election bit is timid - while that's a good start, we need a national redistricting plan to end the gerrymandering of congressional seats, and we need complete public financing of elections. Also a few of them are a little bland - I'm in favor of restoring rural communities and family farms (I guess) but I'm not sure how exactly you would accomplish that. Same with "fostering a world of international cooperation."

Bryant
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:40 PM
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4. Do people get a prize if they vote for the eventual winner?
Is it REALLY like a horse race? If so, I'd appreciate knowing where the prizes are handed out. I voted for Nixon in '68 and I'd sure like to collect a prize for being stupid.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:56 PM
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13. Well we are talking about the primary
Which means electability has to be part of the equation.

Bryant
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:53 PM
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17. It's both refreshing and disturbing to hear people allege a candidate is "unelectable" ...
... and it's not the black or the woman candidate.

It's refreshing because I've lived long enough to have heard this claimed as an excuse for not supporting a minority candidate ... and that's now not being (openly) claimed for Obama or Clinton.

It's disturbing because I've lived long enough to have heard this claimed as an excuse for not supporting a minority candidate ... and that could offer mainstream 'cover' for others to say the same about Obama or Clinton.

I've always been a simple sort of guy ... and usually don't base my vote on who "they" would vote for. I find it difficult enough to ascertain which candidate is aligned with my own values without divining what "they" would do.

:shrug:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:37 PM
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2. In the Primary, yes
after they lose in the primary to Hillary - no.

Also there are a few things missing - poverty, unions, and tax increases for the wealthy.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:39 PM
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3. Only if they were the DEmocratic Nominee!
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:40 PM
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5. While I would support them, I would also be careful because...
There is a very, *very* small chance that they plan on carrying through with their stances.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:46 PM
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7. That's why you need a candidate with long coat-tails
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:55 PM
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12. I've never heard of a President who got everything they stood for in an election.
Not even FDR.

Our chance to elect a President isn't any guarantee that all the programs will be enacted. There's ALWAYS compromise ... hopefully without cutting babies in half. The flaw in a LOT of 'moderate' thinking is that somehow a 'moderate' course can be achieved with half the government steering to the far right and the other half steering to the middle. It just can't balance out that way ... and 'moderation' can't be achieved without balancing voices.

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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:41 PM
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6. A couple things
There's not going to be an international security force in Iraq any time soon, probably ever.

Instant runoff voting isn't as important as reforming congressional elections w/ more competitive House races, in particular.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:46 PM
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8. As long as it's the Democratic nominee. NT
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:51 PM
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9. without a doubt I would
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:52 PM
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10. You mean Dennis Kucinich?
In all seriousness though, of course. I just know I won't have that opportunity in the final election.

Primaries, of course. Unfortunately not enough others will, most likely.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:30 PM
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20. Everyone can vote for whomever they want in the general election.
You can even vote for yourself. :shrug:
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:53 PM
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11. If I were convinced that something would be done other than blowing hot air,
I might - although as I am not what one would call a perfect Democrat, I did find two things on your list I don't much care for, one of which might be a deal breaker for me depending on how it's done.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:57 PM
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14. Yes. n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:59 PM
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15. no, I will support a candidate who supports 90% of that can win
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:01 PM
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16. Yes, but you forgot to add repealing the Military Commissions Act
That's very important.

And prosecuting the Bushies. That's important, too.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:56 PM
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18. Hell, any 3 of those and I'd support 'em. nt
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:19 PM
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19. We already have such a candidate.
He's not one of the big three, and he's not in or formerly in the Seante, and he's never been a governor!

:)
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