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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:47 PM
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BUSTED: Agent Provocateurs Outed at Bush/Harper/Calderon Summit
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 04:56 PM by Junkdrawer
Most times provocateurs succeed...Sometimes they're busted. Monday, they were busted.

OTTAWA – Protesters are accusing police of using undercover agents to provoke violent confrontations at the North American leaders' summit in Montebello, Que. Such accusations have been made before after similar demonstrations but this time the alleged "agents provocateurs" have been caught on camera.

A video, posted on YouTube, shows three young men, their faces masked by bandannas, mingling Monday with protesters in front of a line of police in riot gear. At least one of the masked men is holding a rock in his hand. The three are confronted by protest organizer Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. Coles makes it clear the masked men are not welcome among his group of protesters, whom he describes as mainly grandparents. He urges them to leave and find their own protest location.

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The three do not appear to have been arrested or charged with any offence. Police confirm that only four protesters were arrested during the summit – two men and two women. All have been charged with obstruction and resisting arrest. Veteran protester Jaggi Singh, who is helping to circulate the video as widely as possible, said all four of those arrested are known to organizers and are genuine protesters.

"But we see very clearly in that video three (other) men being arrested . . . How do (police) account for these three people being taken in, being arrested? Where did they go?" Singh said

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/248608


Over at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2962268&mesg_id=2962268">the LBN thread, GliderGuider posted an excellent summary:

Their boots were identical to police issue.
Their age and size was inconsistent with that of other anarchists at this and other demonstrations.
Their deportment during the confrontation with the union leader.
Their refusal to remove their face masks.
Their refusal to leave the area when asked by the union leader.
One carried a rock up to police lines and was not challenged.
One appeared to engage a police officer in conversation immediately after they were named as police officers.
They pushed through police lines with great ease immediately after they were named as police officers.
The fact that they pushed through the police line at all, rather than just leaving the demonstration peacefully like any citizen could.
There was no sign of a struggle during their "arrest".
There was no reason either given or apparent for the "arrest"
At least one of their masks was not removed during the "arrest" (we don't know about the other two).
They walked off calmly to waiting police vehicles.
The police reported all arrests except these three.


Oh, here's a picture of the boots in question:




For the rest, just watch the video. Busted. Completely and totally busted.





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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:54 PM
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1. Another dot connected , but it'll be down the memory hole
all too soon I'm afraid.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:06 PM
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16. Not in Canada, it ain't
This story led the news on CBC last night.

And the union leader who first spotted the "anarchists" is putting in a complaint to the governments of Quebec, the RCMP and the mayor of Montebello, Quebec to seek information on this.

I'd be surprised if an official inquiry doesn't start in either the federal or Quebec governments.

This is not going away here in Canada.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:55 PM
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2. K & R
:kick:
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:03 PM
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3. k & r
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:11 PM
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4. You got videos? You got eyewitnesses? So what...
Personally I think this is great and I am very glad that these bastards were busted.

But the cynic in me thinks that nothing will come of this.

Who would you give the videos to? What do you expect to happen?

Damn. Unless we start running the criminal justice system we will never have the power to stop this shit.

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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:11 PM
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5. I was watching Reno - 911 last night on Comedy Central
and an undercover cop kept getting busted by the Reno guys, but had to keep her cover so she could make the big drug bust. She had to make it look real, so she'd bash one of her colleagues in the groin and make a run for it. Pretty hilarious and it reminds me of this incident. May have been a rerun though...

Don't these guys have anything better to do?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:34 PM
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9. These guys looked like they were rookies at the provocation game...
:rofl:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:15 PM
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6. Excellent summary by GliderGuider. Recommended.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:17 PM
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7. Let this be a lesson for anyone going out to protest
This is a quite common tactic designed to feed the propaganda machine. All protestors should be aware of those around them and have a plan to deal with the situation. I would suggest that organizers have several rapid response teams of videographers and photographers deployed to document the actions of these folks and follow them.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:33 PM
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8. No surprise.
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 05:33 PM by ThomCat
Police have been criminalizing innocent people for as long as there have been police.

The only difference now is that middle class white people are likely to get criminalized now too. It's not just poor folks and minorities.

Many cops will frame you if they can get away with it. And they can get away with it. Now it's just more organized, premeditated, and institutional.

What, you didn't really think that cops are there to protect you, did you? x(
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:39 PM
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10. Amazing Video , the union leader guy was great
:)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:42 PM
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11. That guy should hold classes on protecting protests...
I mean really, he should.

He was great.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:54 PM
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12. BTW: As for those boots...
First time poster christymc dug up this link to the Vibram police shoe site:



http://www.vibram.us/products/products.asp?Product=Fire

I'd say they were the #134AR Technical Lug design...

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:18 PM
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13. I have a friend who sells these type boots to sherriff's deputies.
The city police here are required to wear patent leather.



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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:22 PM
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14. Police being paid to instill a riot
caught in the act
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:19 PM
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15. The Council of Canadians is on it
COC is Canada's largest, most influential advocacy group, and won't give up.

This 'action alert' will also be posted on the Council of Canadians website at www.canadians.org.

As reported by the Globe and Mail, "Organizers of a peaceful protest at this week's Montebello summit want answers from the Prime Minister about three demonstrators whom they say were police agents. Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers union, says the three were trying to provoke violence...The men, who had their faces masked by bandannas, eventually got through police lines where they were whisked away. But there is no record of their arrests and police have refused to comment on the matter...Activists say they believe the three were planted in the crowd to provoke a confrontation to give police justification for moving on the peaceful protesters."

The 5 minute video, filmed by a Council of Canadians chapter activist, can be viewed on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow, and can also be viewed by going to the Council of Canadians website at www.canadians.org.

Dave Coles has said, "The Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union believes that the security force at Montebello were ordered to infiltrate our peaceful assembly and to provoke incidents...Are Canadian citizens going to have to face these kinds of provocateurs just because Stephen Harper seems to think we're some sort of loony-left group? Quite frankly, that's insulting and we don't accept it and we want answers from him."

New Democrat MP Libby Davies said the video evidence raises "hugely serious questions" about the role of the police at contentious international meetings. "I think we need to know who authorized this, how high up does this go?""

Liberal justice critic Marlene Jennings said the evidence is "quite incriminating" and called on the two police forces to "clear this up."


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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:09 PM
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17. This is why spies should be hanged
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:18 PM
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18. Yes, most of the protesters I know wear select pieces of riot gear.
Did anyone notice the police-issue gloves? The shin guards, (which are usually worn underneath the clothes) duct-taped to the "protesters" jeans? Maybe next time the crowd will recognize such fellow protesters, escort them into some alley, and beat them into a coma. Sorry, but non-violent protests don't seem to be working against this regieme anymore. I know that violence is what they want, but I'm starting to feel they should get what they wish for. Fucking scumbags.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:46 PM
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19. .
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