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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:38 PM
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They're Already Spinning The Surge, And The Media Is Buying It
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 01:40 PM by Hissyspit
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They’re Already Spinning the Surge, and the Media is Buying it.

Submitted by dandewalt on Fri, 2007-08-24 17:26. General Discussion

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Careful listening now reveals that the conventional wisdom of mainstream media, as evidenced by their questions, assumptions and “experts” used, acknowledges that there is now at least some sort of positive improvement in the situation on the ground in Iraq. They have been given the bone of political failure in Iraq to report on and it keeps them happy.

But where did they get these new assumptions? These knowledgeable guesses as to what the General’s report would probably say came from various Bush administration offices. Dick Cheney’s upbeat assessments on the Sunday talk circuit is the news for a couple of days, the message gets reinforced from a few other sources, and our “news” editors are relieved to go along.

They accept these assessments from an administration that has done nothing but lie to us from the very beginning of their crooked reign. The media were lied to at the beginning of this war. A few years later, the media said ”We were lied to!!!” Unfortunately, they didn’t get around to saying “Never again.” Come to think of it, that sounds just like the Democrats.

We are being fed a steady of streams of lies from Bush and his allies about Iran. But because those lies root themselves by instilling fear, very few in the public eye are willing to stand up to them as they are uttered. Only when it is too late will we face the truth.

Bush tried to draw a lesson from Vietnam this week, saying absurdly that we should have prolonged that war. But when he joined in the general condemnation of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, albeit with a lukewarm “I didn’t really mean it.” the next day, a more striking parallel came to mind. When South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem fell out of favor with the United States, he was assassinated with the acquiescence of the CIA in order to make room for a leader who would better take the reins of an unsuccessful war out of our hands.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:50 PM
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1. Pardon me The Media Is NOT Buying It. The Media Is SELLING It
That is their job in the New World order of the HOMELAND (Fatherland) security department.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:54 PM
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3. Exactly (n/t)
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:05 PM
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10. I was just about to post that. nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:06 PM
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11. "They're spinning the escalation faster, the media is selling it, and people are buying it"
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 05:07 PM by bananas
would be a more accurate headline.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:22 PM
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13. What people do you see buying it? I call BullShit on the whole Iran propaganda war
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:53 PM
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2. "it's working"
When you have the presumed leader of the Democratic Party say "it's working", it puts the rest of the party in a near impossible position. You either call the (very possibly) next Presidential candidate a fool or a liar - or you try to figure out how to tailor your message to not completely trash hers.

That is what has been going on for six damn years.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:59 PM
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4. Shut up Hillary
just fucking shut up. Or send your husband and daughter to the oily slaughter of corporate lies.

Corporate kiss ass clown...clinton cares about clinton. Period.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:00 PM
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5. Maliki better stay off small airplanes, wear head and body
armor, open up his personal space about 6 feet, and hire a food-and-drink taster.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:04 PM
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6. Hillary has always been a hawk and wants the draft
she is scary
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:23 PM
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7. The spin to remove the troops...
This is morons* way out. he* spins the surge as a success, then is given the graceful way out. This effectively does two things.

It stunts the Dems argument for withdrawal and it makes him* look like he* knows what is going on.

Wait for it.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:26 PM
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8. Bingo. I Fucking Predicted This When The Surge Was Announced
Conniving little cowardly con man. Jesus I hate the fucker.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:35 PM
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9. How is arming anti-government Sunni militias who recently killed Americans, & may again, progress?
Aren't we trading one set of problems with "Al-Qaeda In Iraq" for an even larger set of problems that is bound to bite us in the ass quite soon?

Arming tribal militias, who are essentially in revolt against the central government that we say we're fighting and dying to stabilize and protect, is ultimately cutting our own throats. That is, it's self-defeating if our goal was to have a unified, stable Iraq. If our goal, instead, was to have Anbar Province secede from the nation state of Iraq and set off a longrunning civil war -- a war that could only be held down by the continued indefinite deployment of large numbers of US forces to keep the two sides from mass slaughter--then I'd say we've made an excellent start by arming both sides.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:10 PM
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12. Of course they are, and of course the media is selling their wares for them
Why should this war be different than the last war?
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:51 PM
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14. The blame game
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 01:54 PM by noise
Al Qaeda is as fault!

Iran is killing US soldiers!

Maliki isn't doing his job!

The Saudis are supporting the Sunni insurgents! (White House to media: don't you dare publish this one)

Democrats' criticism of the President is hurting troop morale and emboldening enemies!

Citizens need to shut up and support the President! The MSM deliberately conflates the corrupt civilian command with soldiers, in effort to send the message that criticizing a fake leader like Bush is the same as criticizing soldiers serving in Iraq.

Syria is doing something to interfere with the occupation!



Counterinsurgency is, by definition, a competition between insurgents and counterinsurgents for the control and support of a population. To believe that Americans, with an occupying force that long ago outlived its reluctant welcome, can win over a recalcitrant local population and win this counterinsurgency is far-fetched.

LINK

Thus, the MSM is lying to protect an occupation policy is that being continued at the expense of soldiers. Even sicker, support for the policy is considered an act of proper patriotism.

Did al Qaeda or Iran make these decisions:

NO END IN SIGHT examines the manner in which the principal errors of U.S. policy – the use of insufficient troop levels, allowing the looting of Baghdad, the purging of professionals from the Iraqi government, and the disbanding of the Iraqi military – largely created the insurgency and chaos that engulf Iraq today.

http://noendinsightmovie.com/">LINK


ANTONIA JUHASZ: Yeah. You know, in the report that you were quoting in the beginning of the hour, which said that the reconstruction failed because of poor planning, it’s a myth that there was not a post-war planning done by the Bush administration. The reason why it failed was because the interests it was serving were U.S. multinationals, not reconstruction in Iraq.

That plan was ready two months before the invasion. It was written by BearingPoint, Inc., a company based in Virginia that received a $250 million contract to rewrite the entire economy of Iraq. It drafted that new economy. That new economy was put into place systematically by L. Paul Bremer, the head of the occupation government of Iraq for 14 months, who implemented exactly one hundred orders, basically all of which are still in place today. And everyone who is watching who is familiar with the policies of the World Trade Organization, the North American Free Trade Agreement, the World Bank, the I.M.F., will understand the orders.

They implement some of the most radical corporate globalization ideas, such as free investment rules for multinational corporations. That means corporations can enter Iraq, and they essentially don't have to contribute at all to the economy of Iraq. The most harmful provision thus far has been the national treatment provision, which meant that the Iraqis could not give preference to Iraqi companies or workers in the reconstruction, and therefore, U.S. companies received preference in the reconstruction. They hired workers who weren't even from Iraq, in most cases, and utterly bungled the reconstruction.

And the most important company, in my mind, to receive blame is the Bechtel Corporation of San Francisco. They have received $2.8 billion to rebuild water, electricity and sewage systems, the most important systems in the life of an Iraqi. After the first Gulf War, the Iraqis rebuilt these systems in three months' time. It’s been three years, and, as you said, those services are still below pre-war levels.

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