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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:42 PM
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Since the Bush years can anyone...
remember what they were thinking or how before this shit. I use to wake up everyday thinking up new things and about new possiblities. I was happy for the most part, but now it seems as though everyday there seems to be a new problem or something that effects what people do in some way and people seem to be more insane,plus I have been hearing of crimes that were never heard of or were few and far between.

There seems to be an epidemic of pedohiles and serial killers of women. Bush is talking about taking care of Iraq while this country is getting more and more out of control everyday and his base seem to like it that way. I don't know why they can't seem to see that if they keep backing people into a corner sooner or later something has to give.


Even religious people seem to be going nuts.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:52 PM
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1. Actually I have been having nightmares
about where this country was headed since the day Reagan was elected.

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:57 PM
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2. The uh-ohs have been a horrid decade so far. A great many of
the "pedophiles" are young men in their twenties entrapped by law enforcement or TV shows into hitting on fictitious internet females of what would have been marriageable age not so long ago. Interestingly, a lot of the funding for this comes from a bill originally sponsored by Mark Foley and the money is funneled through that paragon of virtue Alberto Gonzales. This "epidemic" is a largely a distraction from the crimes of Bushco. Gonzo is always talking about "protecting our children" which is standard Repuke b.s.

There have always been serial killers of women, e.g., Jack the Ripper, Ed Gein, The Boston Strangler-but now we have 24/7 cable news.

As a lifetime heathen, I have always thought religious people a trifle nuts and I am sure they, me. Rove, et al, have turned them into a potent political force incapable of critical thinking.

I agree that living in BushWorld is no picnic and it doesn't seem like the nightmare will end.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:12 PM
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6. There have always been serial killers but..
it seems as though there many more women and children who go missing now more than ever.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:44 PM
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14. Many years ago in college I was taught that the level of reported
crime depends on two factors 1) the degree of certainty that the crime will be reported, and 2) population. Both are up significantly in my lifetime. When I was a kid, there were no pictures of missing children on the glass jugs the milkman left at the door. That doesn't mean there weren't any.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:24 PM
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15. They may have not been for you but...
I remember a child killer when I was about nine or ten years old and I was afraid everytime I would see news reports about it.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:58 PM
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3. "religious people seem to be going nuts?"
Oh, this isn't new. Some have always been decent, but there are FAR too many sects that promote insanity.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:58 PM
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4. Before the Bush years....
My pay was good, so were my benefits. All my insurance for my homes and autos was good and affordable. Now I make about 60% less and that's about how much my insurance, gas and grocery bills have increased, apiece. For the first time in seventeen years I've started a part-time job.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:07 PM
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5. The host of "Last Comic Standing" did an opening monologue
the other night about how much better the economy was under Clinton. It was pretty good -- wish I had recorded it.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:24 PM
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10. I saw that and he was dead on.
Even when they panned across the audience you could see
many heads nodding in agreement.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:34 PM
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13. Yes, things were better.
Our pay and benefits were good. Things were financially tighter in my home, only because we were still supporting three children then. Two of them went off to college during that time. We actually had money to help the two oldest ones with their first few years of college.

That changed quickly. The cost of everything went up so much. My job became insecure, then it ceased to exist, and I got sick. Thank God my husband still has his. Now, our insurance has increased, just like food, gas and everything else.

My children are well-educated and employed, but they are having a tough time just getting by. They can't consider buying a home, or doing the things to build a secure future that we did at their ages. My oldest is 27. I was a first-time home owner at her age. I would not like to be young now.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 08:24 AM
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22. A little off the topic
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 08:29 AM by DaveTheWave
We sound about the same age and in my parents generation there were jobs that were considered respectable and were part of the middle class back then. I have two family members who worked as regular employees at a Safeway supermarket (not managers either) from the late 60's through the 80's and they both bought homes, sent kids to college and still have pensions.
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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:15 PM
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7. It's the 'trickle-down' society....
When the people see the leaders getting away with the worst crimes imaginable, it affects the rest of society.

Laws are now meaningless.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:18 PM
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8. Most people don't seem to remember how things were less than a year ago.
Remember? Before Pelosi neutered Conyers? Before Pelosi wrote a blank check for Iraq? Before Pelosi wasted all that time and goodwill in order to give Reid two horribly failed immigration bills for which the people will never forgive her? Before Pelosi made illegal spying legal?

Those were the days.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:22 PM
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9. Before weak -kneed...
Harry Reid took over..
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:24 PM
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11. You are right, things were very good during the Clinton years because...
...when President Clinton nominated or appointed someone to work with him in the Federal Government, it was because they were QUALIFIED or at least Competent people who had experience in that job, NOT as a political favor or kick-back.

I'm sure some will disagree with that statement (there are always a few around here), but things were SO GOOD that, the one 24/7 Right-wing "news" channel (CNN was still fairly neutral back then) had to invent BAD news, or search back 20 years for bad land deals to investigate so that they didn't have to report how good thing were.

The reason you hear about all these pedophiles and serial killers and female teachers having sex with students, and missing blond girls, etc... is so they don't have to report the REAL News and to distract us (or at least those who still watch Cow Crap 24/7 "news" channels) away from all the crimes against America Bush Corp is committing on a daily basis.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 05:24 PM
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12. Your last line is funny. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:30 PM
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16. I've been "aware" since the early 60's
The last 7 years have been BY FAR the worst of my experience. Just utterly horrid in almost every way. Personally, financially, societally . . . every facet of existence in the US has been debased.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:20 PM
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17.  EXACTLY !
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:29 PM
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19. Also environmentally...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:28 PM
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18. Definitely
I have been a lawyer since the 80s. No matter how wrong things went or how crazy they were, deep down you know that in the end, whoever or whatever, logic would prevail and that substance would not be set aside for form. A good case would not be dismissed because somebody forget to file a piece of paper before an arbitrary deadline.

Since Bushco, the government has been arbitrary, quick to throw out any good claim or case just because some arbitrary rule wasn't complied with to the letter, and the rules are getting vaguer and harder to figure out while the government uses whatever excuse it can, from that vagueness, to deny justice on a technical ground.

The government keeps changing the rules, always to make them stricter and harder-assed when it comes to legal procedures, and it has its convenience as the first consideration, not common sense or justice or logic.
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:33 PM
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20. This is something I would have never thought ...
would have happened in the ways that it has. I was looking at the GOD'S WARRIOR series of shows with christine amanpour on CNN and the falwell church and others are training lawyers so it will only get worse.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:40 PM
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21. Actually, lately my life has been focused on some matters closer to home...
Like how my mother is going to pay her rent AND her mortgage on a house that she can never live in again, when she's going to be able to reopen her store, and what I need to make sure she has for the new house she just rented. I'm sorry I can't wake up every day worrying about the country and the pickle the dick has gotten us into. But right now there are things going on at home that supersede everything else. I apologize for sounding snotty or being insensitive, but it's all kind of starting to hit me that I no longer have a home to go back to that is familiar and that my mom was homeless for a while........
Duckie
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