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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:38 AM
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Should perverts like Larry Craig be castrated? Idaho Values Alliance thinks so.
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 03:39 AM by Philosoraptor
http://www.idahovaluesalliance.com/news.asp?id=481

One of the tragic characteristics of the homosexual lifestyle is its emphasis on anonymous sex and multiple sexual partners. It is a little-acknowledged secret that many active homosexuals will have more than 1,000 sex partners over the course of a lifetime (the average among heterosexuals is seven – still six more than we were designed for). This sordid fact of homosexual life surfaced yesterday in an AP article yesterday that reports on the number of arrests police have made for indecent exposure and public sex acts in the restrooms at Atlanta’s airport, the busiest in the world. The increased restroom patrols, begun to apprehend luggage thieves, instead uncovered a rash of sex crimes. Airport restrooms have become so popular that men looking for anonymous sexual trysts with other men have advertised their airport availability on Craigslist. One such ad was from a man saying he was stuck at the airport for three hours and was looking for “discreet, quick action.” (AP: Arrests Up in Atlanta Airport Restrooms)



Ø The Virginia state legislature, in an action that the Idaho legislature may do well to consider, passed a bill that directed state agencies to study whether Virginia should start castrating violent sex offenders rather than confining them. The governor unfortunately vetoed the bill. Costs for housing the state’s most dangerous sex offenders are spiraling out of control, and lawmakers wanted to explore the possibility of offering criminals the option of “physical castration” in exchange for being released. (Physical castration virtually eliminates the sex drive, and reduces recidivism to near zero.) The founder of the Johns Hopkins Sexual Disorder Clinic was disappointed in the governor’s veto. Castration, he said, is “a sexual appetite suppressant” that can be used “for those sex offenders who seem to be driven by abnormal sexual cravings.” Chemical castration is an alternative, but requires repeated injections to be effective, while surgical castration, of course, is permanent. Eight states currently allow medical castration of some offenders, and three give sex offenders the choice between chemical and surgical castration. It costs the state $420,000 a year to keep a sex offender in prison, and up to $2.2 million over time to house an offender in a treatment facility. Said a lawmaker who supports the castration bill, “It’s a simple operation that can provide a cure for many of these individuals, and taxpayers are relieved of a burden.”Top of Form (Kaine Vetoes Bill To Study Castration - washingtonpost.com)

------------YET, they endorse and thank Senator Larry Craig right above this article.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:40 AM
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1. If they want to chop off things so badly, why not bring back the guillotine?

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 AM
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3. It’s a simple operation that can provide a cure for many of these individuals,
Dr. Mengele would approve.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:43 AM
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4. Somebody call Bill Frist.
We have a new job for him.


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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:44 AM
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5. Cat-stration.
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 03:47 AM by Philosoraptor
Mee OUCH!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 AM
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2. Morons...
"six more than we're designed for..."

Last I checked, it wasn't shaped like a key.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:57 AM
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6. Their slogan says....
"Idaho Values Alliance' - Making Idaho the Friendliest Place In the World To Raise A Family"

- Provided they stay out of the men's restrooms at the airport.

K&R!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:17 AM
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7. if te condition is untreatable they should be kept in a humane walled city separate from victims
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:14 AM
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8. Y'know, they would be a lot more credible if they didn't go out of their
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 05:31 AM by EST
way to try to add the weight of their bias to the argument.
"It costs the state $420,000 a year to keep a sex offender in prison, and up to $2.2 million over time to house an offender in a treatment facility."

Utter bullshit. In the fight to save the good guys from themselves, the pursuit of the elimination of the death penalty has led to a pretty thorough understanding of the costs of imprisonment. And it is not anything like that.

Hmmm....could this be a revelation of what the privateers in the prison business are actually getting from taxes to house one inmate? I'll have to check into that.

Having been touched by tragedy of this sort can alter one's outlook on possible solutions for handling the threat. If the case were clearcut and there were no possible doubt, I don't think I would object to physical castration until such time as we discover how to handle the crisis of mental illness colliding with sexual drives in a more humane or sophisticated fashion.

Since it appears, at least in communities of higher mammals, that berserkers naturally arise and cause a great deal of harm, we can expect to be saddled with the problem of prevention, recovery and punishment for a long time to come. It would serve well to take a stronger look at our "justice" system and the problems endemic to that keep us from better solutions.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:04 AM
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9. I don't think castration is the answer. For what it's worth,
Google "Wayne Dumond".

Wayne DuMond, a decorated Vietnam veteran, handyman and father of six, was convicted in August 1985 of the rape of a 17-year-old cheerleader from Forrest City, Arkansas. The girl was the daughter of a prominent Arkansas mortician and a distant cousin of former president Bill Clinton.


On March 7, 1985, while free on bond awaiting trial, DuMond was savagely attacked. Matt Stearns of The Kansas City Star stated in a June 2001 article that two masked men broke into his Forrest City house, "armed with a handgun, a razor blade and fishing wire." They "hogtied him and forced him to perform oral sex on one of them" and then "castrated him with the fishing wire and the razor blade," it was further reported.

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In January 2004, DuMond was sentenced again to life in prison for the 2000 murder of Carol Sue Shields, 39. Shields was found bound and suffocated "on the bed in the apartment of a man with whom she had been having an affair," Dana Fields said in an AP Online article. DNA evidence, which was found under the victim's nails, linked DuMond to the crime. Aside from the 1985 rape conviction, DuMond had also been previously arrested for sexual assaults in 1972, 1973 and in 1976.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/sexual_assault/severed_penis/7.html

With many sex crimes, it's not about the sex, it's about the power.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:31 AM
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:38 AM
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:16 AM
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:18 AM
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13. The right-wing radio stations here are bashing Craig this morning - eewww, he's gay!
They are repulsed. They are angry. People are calling in and demanding that he resign!
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:42 PM
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 02:56 PM
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15. Please stop calling him a pervert
by doing so you are implying that every gay person is a pervert. He hit on a man in a bathroom - that does not make him a pervert.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:20 AM
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17. The Christian conservatives see it as perversion, & called Bill one.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:17 AM
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:03 AM
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18. A rep. of the IVA has now publically denounced Larry on cnn.
Sorry larry baby, yer on yer own.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:05 AM
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19. The IVA's official statement on the now unworthy Larry.
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