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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:39 AM
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Poll question: Do graphic anti-smoking ads make smokers want to quit?
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 10:44 AM by BurtWorm
New York City (and/or the state) is running a series of extremely graphic anti-smoking ads, featuring what looks like actual surgery on the jugular of a supposed smoker to remove plaque buildup caused by smoking. It is hard to imagine how they accomplished the shots of a surgeon, talking to the camera as he lifts the rubbery jugular with a surgical tool as he talks about it, and then removes the yellow plaque with tweezers to show viewers at home. Some of the shots are of the face of the smoker allegedly being operated on.

I remember being shown utterly revolting anti-drug films in high school that accomplished nothing more than make some of the more sensitive in our class faint. Did they scare anyone away from using heroin? Anyone who would have been inclined to use it in the first place, I mean? I doubt it. And I doubt these graphic commercials do anything but nauseate anyone not fast enough with the remote.

But what do I know? I quit because it was too expensive and my wife and daughter wanted me to.

How about you?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:41 AM
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1. Yes. They do.
I've known several people who stopped smoking after seeing what smoker's lung looks like.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:43 AM
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3. Where's your vote?
:hi:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:43 AM
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2. No.
A smoker will only quit when he/she really wants to.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:44 AM
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4. You tell me: (UK) Smokers to face picture warnings
Smokers to face picture warnings

Images highlighting the dangers of smoking will be printed on all tobacco products sold in the UK by the end of 2009, under regulations being set out.

Manufacturers will have to start complying from October next year.



After a public consultation 15 images, including ones of diseased lungs, have been chosen to accompany text warnings about lung cancer and heart disease.


The article continues at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6967160.stm
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:06 AM
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11. Mmmm... Mushrooms...
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:46 AM
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16. Look again at the picture
Those are lungs, friend. The lungs of the smoker are on the right. :hi:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:51 AM
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20. Looks like smoked Portabello to me.
Delicious!


;-)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:59 AM
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25. That's old hat
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 12:03 PM by edwardlindy
Back in 1991 I was involved in leasing cigarette machines etc. One of the companies with whom I dealt was selling the cigarettes which were call DEATH.
All of their packets and marketing material had graphic pictures and warnings like " These will definately kill you"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(cigarette)

edit- the above link edits itself . After death you add underscore (cigarette)
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:11 PM
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29. Both of those people are dead anyway
You know, the original owners of both the healthy dead lung and the darkened ugly dead lung.

I don't smoke, but when I've seen those pictures, I wondered what killed the guy with the better lung.

The one I saw showed a picture with quotes of a "healthy" 45 year old lung and a smoke ridden 45 year old lung. They clearly meant to show that the non-smoker was better off.

My takeaway was that both 45 year olds were dead anyway.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:47 AM
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5. Not a smoker and that type of shit keeps me from ever wanting to try it. n/t
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:59 AM
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9. If that is all the pictures do, the ad campaigns are money well spent
Nicotine is an addiction. Studies have shown that nicotine has a physiological hold on the brain similar to cocaine. Nicotine addiction is very difficult to break. The obvious first course solution to nicotine addiction is to prevent people from becoming addicted in the first place.

If that is all that graphic pictures accomplish, then well done.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:04 AM
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10. Excellent point, TechBear.
But these sorts of ads have been running for years and years and years, and people still take up the habit. I did, despite knowing what smoker's lung looks like, knowing it causes cancer, etc., etc., etc. I did because it was a pleasure to smoke.

I have a feeling the people who are scared into not smoking by these ads probably wouldn't have started smoking anyway.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:45 AM
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14. Actually, they have been shown to be effective
It is a measurable fact that, since the mid 90s when graphic pictures first started to be used in anti-smoking campaigns, the number of smokers in the United States has dropped significantly. Yes, people continue to take up the habit, but for some ten years the number of new smokers has not kept pace with the number of smokers who stop (either by choice or by death.) This is shown by the tobacco industries own reports, brought to light in open court during the various lawsuits against the industry.

Campaigns such as No Stank You have been quite effective; and when Minnesota eliminated its state-run anti-smoking campaign at the end of 2003, teen smoking jumped by mid 2004. (link) What have not worked were the preachy ones run by DARE and similar groups.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:48 AM
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17. Hasn't that coincided with increases in excise taxes on cigarettes?
So which do you think has the biggest effect on smokers? Or do you think it's a combination of factors working on them (in which case, the correlation between the graphic images and the decrease in smokers is no less unproved)?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:05 PM
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28. Does an increase in the street price of cocaine deter coke addicts?
I very much doubt it. :eyes:

With regards to people who are already addicted to nicotine, of course there are more effective direct pressures. Friends, family, health and a growing awareness of the dangers of second hand smoke which is changing public opinion of smoking very likely play are larger role than anti-smoking campaigns. Those opinions, however, are shaped in non-smokers by graphic campaigns.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:13 PM
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31. An increase in the price of of a pack of cigarettes unquestionably influenced me
and continues to influence me. I do not want to be throwing so much money away regularly on something I really do not need (as long I stay away from them).

Maybe a better formulation would be that the cost combined equally with my knowledge of the powerfully addictive properties of cigarettes keeps me from smoking.

Graphic ads just annoy me.

But as I say, that may just be me (although judging from the poll results, I'm not alone).
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:48 PM
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40. I smoked for 20 years but was not "addicted" in the clinical sense.
I gave it up because I wanted something else: a relationship with my nonsmoking life partner and NOT to be considered a smoker (I liked the idea of being a nonsmoker). I suffered no withdrawal symptoms. My mother did the same thing after smoking for 50 years: no withdrawal symptoms. BUT she had been told by a doctor who saved her life when she had a bleeding ulcer that he wouldn't be able to do it again if she continued to smoke. She quit cold turkey.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:54 AM
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6. i quit because i wanted to breathe easier in the late evening and...
early morning. During the day it never bothered me. 3 packs a day for decades, a smoker for over 30 years. A ex-smoker for 6 months now.

And pictures would NEVER make me want to quit.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:56 AM
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7. Former smoker of 14 years
Pictures had no impact. It's an addiction. A medical problem.
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 10:58 AM
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8. I'm A Non-Smoker, and They Make Me Want To Start
Those ads are so manipulative and obnoxious that I almost want to start smoking (or at least purchase some tobacco products) as a way of protesting against the obvious attempts those ads make to manipulate me and others.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:42 AM
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13. Manipulation is the key
Smokers need to call for affirmative action.Over 25% of the population smokes. The %'s of minorities in this country that want AA are less than that.Where are MY RIGHTS?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:46 AM
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15. ROFL.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:49 AM
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18. I'll pick you up
When you can debunk the facts.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:49 AM
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19. What facts? You're whining like you're an oppressed minority.
:rofl:
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:54 AM
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21. Not whining
Would just like my rights respected like the next person.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:55 AM
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22. I respect your right to quit smoking.
:shrug:
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:59 AM
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24. That's a choice -Not a right N/T
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:02 PM
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27. Smoking's a choice.
A dumb one, IMO.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:14 PM
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32. 'tend to agree
But, it was a choice I made 41 years ago. Just don't try to
control what I do w/my body or make people that come into my
place of business not enjoy themselves. If they don't like the
smoke,they can go somewhere else.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:15 PM
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34. I don't want to get cancer...
because my dumb employer made a dumb choice forty years ago.

The issue isn't your right to smoke, the issue is whether you have the right to give other people cancer.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:23 PM
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35. Oh, PLEASE
In the 70's , Cancer was caused by coffee,sugar,saccharine,etc.
Give me a break!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:19 PM
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37. Give you a break?
First you compare smoking to civil rights and now you're on about how it doesn't cause cancer?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:08 AM
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12. no. n/t
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 11:55 AM
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23. Anti-smoking commercials make me crave a cigarette
:shrug:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:00 PM
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26. I wonder if movies of animals being slaughtered would affect meat-eaters.
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 12:01 PM by Perry Logan
Or graphic photos of bowel cancer, lung cancer, throat cancer, etc.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:15 PM
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33. Interesting question.
I'm sure the images of slaughter would hit at least some meat eaters in their empathy centers. I don't think it's likely that images of colon cancer would have the same effect, however.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 02:33 PM
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42. Maybe some but for those of us who have slaughtered animals no.
I grew up poor so we grew a lot of our own vegetables, raised livestock and hunted. If I watched a slaughtering movie I would probably just judge how efficient the slaughter was.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:12 PM
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30. They could show a whole slew of diseased organs, open throats and they STILL wouldn't quit.
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 12:14 PM by HughBeaumont
It's a physical addiction and one of the hardest ones in the world to completely get out of. It's even harder if you start/started in your adolescent/teen years, which 8 out of 10 smokers have.

It didn't take the ALA van of tarred-up organ displays when I was 7. It was because I lost my grandmother at the age of 49 that I never started. I also lost my future mother-in-law because of an aortic aneurysm (being a heavy smoker didn't help that) and my FIL, who recently quit after 35 years, has emphysema. The SIL recently had her appendix and gall bladder removed, gets winded easily and has frequent upper respiratory infections and pneumonia. Still smokes, doesn't care.

Losing someone you're extremely close to should stick with a kid the rest of his/her life. Unfortunately, it didn't with my sister, who still smokes after 20 years. Unlike her, I learned from other people's mistakes and didn't make them on my own.

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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 12:35 PM
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36. Better Than Those "Truth" Ads.
I swear that every time I thought about quitting, I'd see one of those smug, pretentious, holier-than-though "Truth" ads and it would keep me smoking for another 6 months, easy. It's no coincidence that I quit smoking after I stopped seeing those ads.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:20 PM
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38. Nope. And smoking threads make me want a cig even more.
In fact, I'm gonna go have one right now.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:44 PM
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39. No - they actually appeal to a death wish
Manufacturers of hard liquor but images of death on their ads and products -- not because they have to -- but because they have evidence that the heaviest drinkers have a death wish. The icon on Bacardi bottles is a black bat. Kahluha uses images of tombs (really fancy graves). It appeals to the subconcious mind saying something like "you are going to die anyway, might as well do what you like ...here is a really cool way to kill yourself slowly"

I'm not sure that smoking is all that different.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:54 PM
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41. Huh?
The bat on the Bacardi bottle is a fruit bat, because the original Bacardi distillery used to have fruit bats living in the rafters.

Kahlua bottles are various scenes from Mexico. Spanish missions and so on.

What's Captain Morgan signify? The deserve of heavy drinkers to capture Spanish treasure galleons?
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