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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:48 PM
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FISA and the ACLU: U.S. opposes release of court rulings on wiretaps
U.S. opposes release of court rulings on wiretaps
By Randall Mikkelsen
Reuters - August 31, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/31/AR2007083102230.html


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration opposed in U.S. court on Friday an effort to peel back a secrecy lid .... which critics say infringes on privacy and rights.

....U.S. Justice Department said the court should reject a request by the American Civil Liberties Union to disclose its legal rulings ....

It said the court had no authority to order such material declassified, the ACLU had no basis for filing its request with the court, and that granting it would jeopardize the surveillance program.

"The public disclosure of the documents the ACLU requests would seriously compromise sensitive sources and methods relating to the collection of intelligence necessary for the Government to conduct counterterrorism activities," the department said in its filing.

The ACLU said keeping the rulings secret would hamper political debate over the government's surveillance authority.

"This debate should not take place in a vacuum. The public has a right to know, at least in general terms, what kinds of surveillance the court authorized and what kinds of surveillance it disallowed," Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's National Security Project, said in a statement.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:50 PM
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1. Shit, the old Soviet Union had nothing on this administration.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:59 PM
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4. Check out Reid and Pelosi on the home page
http://www.aclu.org/

ACLU Condemns Bush Administration for Opposing Disclosure of FISA Court's Legal Rulings (8/31/2007)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: media@aclu.org

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/31536prs20070831.html

WASHINGTON - In legal papers filed today, the Bush Administration urged the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) to refuse the American Civil Liberties Union's request that the court make public legal rulings that have been at the center of public and congressional debate over the last eight months.

The ACLU filed a motion on August 8 requesting that the FISC release the rulings with only those redactions essential to protect information that is properly classified. The brief filed by the government today contends that the FISC does not have jurisdiction to consider the ACLU's request at all and that the FISC should defer to the government's determination that the rulings must be kept secret in their entirety.

The following can be attributed to Jameel Jaffer, Director of the ACLU's National Security Project:

"The government's contention that the court's legal rulings must be kept secret and that the court should essentially rubber-stamp the administration's classification decisions should be deeply offensive to anyone committed to basic democratic principles. We are in the midst of a critically important debate about the proper scope of the government's surveillance authority. This debate should not take place in a vacuum. The public has a right to know, at least in general terms, what kinds of surveillance the court authorized and what kinds of surveillance it disallowed. If the legal rulings contain properly classified information, that information can be redacted, but there is no good reason why these legal rulings should be withheld from the public in their entirety. If administration officials can reference, characterize, and describe the court's rulings - as they have done repeatedly - the public should be able to examine the rulings firsthand."

Under a scheduling order issued by the FISC, the ACLU will file a reply to the government's brief on September 14.

A copy of the FISA court order, the ACLU's motion to the FISC, the government's response, as well as information about the ACLU's lawsuit against the NSA and other related materials are available online at: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 02:00 PM
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5. Huh? I've not heard such talk since I was last in a Fundamentalist church
For them the ACLU stood for "Anti Christian Litigation Unit." Your slur is not far from the mark.

Would you care to post the reasons why you label the ACLU as "Atheist Crazies and Lunatics Unite"?

As an atheist and an ACLU member I'd like to know....


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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 02:27 PM
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6. I have just heard how the ACLU got kids released from Hutto
there they were in a prison because their parents were illegal immigrants, they were held behind bars w/o toys, proper clothes,
classes, health care, anything, some of these kids were as young as 4 years old. I too am a card carrying member of the
ACLU, and I am proud to be a member.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:47 AM
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7. The ACLU is a major target of right-wing fringe religious zealots.
Fundamentalism has no place for challenging authority.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:56 PM
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3. Let's see how they rule - hooray for ACLU - rec'd
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