God is a Republican & Conservative

I thought that posting this in GD would evoke more of a response to this. It's both relevant from a theological POV as much as a political issue.
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God is a Republican & Conservative: If You Love God, You Must Be Conservative and Vote Republican, God's Own Party



It's interesting, and more than a little bit disturbing, just how often conservatives and Republicans claim that God is on their side politically -- that their policies, their politics, their agenda, and even their political party are specifically favored by God. Many people recognize it as a sign of extreme arrogance and hubris to imagine that God is taking one's side in the political realm. This tactic is much more, and much worse, than mere hubris though. It is also an attempt to undermine the democratic process itself.

Democratic politics involves different people with different interests, ideas, and even values reaching common ground on how to govern a community. The process of democratic governance must be human-oriented because it's a process of creating human compromises in the service of human interests. People may bring values and ideas derived from religious belief systems to the table, but the decisions cannot be religious in nature and still remain truly democratic.

Claiming that one is acting on behalf of God, and that God specifically favors one's policies, circumvents all this. The implicit assumption is always that God's wishes and agenda cannot be compromised on. They cannot be the subject of debate, disagreement, or dissent. They cannot be set aside in favor of some other policy. To claim that God favors just one side is, then, the rejection of the democratic political process by which laws and policies are normally formed.

It's not just a rejection of any possible compromises for the sake of others who have different interests, but also a rejection of the possibility that an entirely different policy might be preferable. There is no need for any investigations into the consequences of the policy or whether the policy will actually achieve the stated objectives. There is no need to look at whether some other policy would do a better job. Once God has spoken, all debate must end.

The rest: http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/God-Conservative-Republican.htm

But then I say who would Jesus kill?

The trick, though, is in making this work:

People may bring values and ideas derived from religious belief systems to the table, but the decisions cannot be religious in nature and still remain truly democratic.

who are so uncharitable and so careless of their fellow men?

That must be some other god.

remember "Arbeit Macht Frei" (work makes you free) :sarcasm:

Silly republicans

:thumbsup:

:applause:

Lechter.

A danger at home, a danger abroad.

None of these people, Christian, Jewish or Moslem Fundamentalists believe that we should use the brain that God gave us.. .All punishment and control, all the time with these guys...

Five pointed stars on the GOP logo.
Isnt that the sign of witchcraft and the devil?

I would think the fundies would blanch at the upside down five side pentegram.
tib

Throughout most of the OT it's moralizing, intrusion on sex life, vilifying anyone who is different, an obsession with sex, wars of choice that slaughter all and sundry for no real reason, and an absurdly aggressive system of "justice". Sounds pretty Republican to me.

In the NT you get a lot more about helping others and being peaceful and tolerant, but you also get wailing and gnashing of teeth and moralizing aplenty too, so a mixed bag there.

On balance he does sound more Republican than not.

It would seem to me the closest affiliation any "Old Testement Christian" person is able to claim would be as a member of the Jewish faith!

Just askin'



:shrug: :silly:

It's part of the Christian bible. Christians spend an inordinate amount of time trying to establish the decalogue that is contained therein, and also albeit selectively many of them try to impose the guidelines in Leviticus and Deuteronomy too.

While it's true that many Xians think we should focus more on the NT - in some cases genuinely and in others because they want to distance themselves from the frankly wackjob of a god it portrays, it's not that easy - their bible contains those books still.

Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.

... And god is the perfect constituent, since he's already made up for other purposes, they can just overload the fiction as they wish at no marginal cost (cuz making shit up is free).

conservative, if you have read the old testament you will see God is on mean nasty, dirty, naughty SOB, now when you read the new testament you will see Jesus is the liberal, honest, caring, loving democrat who not like GOD wanted to save the world not destroy it as GOD had done over and over...

idea of Jesus' pre-existence.

Of those, there are some that believe that that nasty, dirty, naughty SOB was born as Jesus.

And, oddly, quite a coherent theology can come out of that.

But while I've heard conservatives say God is a Republican, and I've heard liberals say that God's a Democrat, I think I reject both claims.

I am just using the standard of the Bible to make the point...

he is not around to say otherwise. Santa is used to sell all kinds of things that a person that generous would have nothing to do with. God can be used to sell wholesale destruction every time. Smite thine enemies and so forth.

if I believed in any of that crap

...all being ruled by rich, fat, white and nominally Christian men who don't think Teh Gays should marry.

It's nice to think that the Democratic Party is egalitarian, but it's not very realistic.

on edit: Isn't this the way in most families? My dad and his brother and sisters are all neocons. However, the kids don't buy into it. Why would it be any different with God and His Son?

They're funny. Judas was the first Republican.