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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:36 AM
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Brace yourself.
We're about to have a non-stop week of blaringly loud admin/repuke pr on how great things are in Iraq, how hopeful, how much progress is being made, blah, blah, blah.

It started a couple of weeks ago, but today's little jaunt up the ante.
Bush will speak from Iraq at 12:30. I'm sure he'll be followed by lots of repukes chiming in. The media will give them wall to wall coverage leading up to the Petraeus/Crocker report on the 10th.

I find this unbelievably frustrating. The dems are being outmaneuvered by the idiot in chief and his thugs.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:38 AM
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1. But for a complicit media...
... BushCo wouldn't get away with this crap.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:39 AM
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2. is anyone listening to him anymore?
bush that is.

nobody I know. Its like everyone is 'wishing' him away.

but you have a good point, there will be tons of propoganda gearing up. its going to be hard to bear.

brace yourself is right!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:29 AM
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18. Fortunately I think you are correct
Even his supporters are sick and tired of hearing about HIS stupid war and want to move on to more important things.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:30 AM
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19. The public is fickle and not that hard to manipulate
don't be surprised if you see some results from this pr campaign.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:34 AM
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24. Perhaps, but the bumps are smaller and shorter in duration
...and the backlash (falls to a lower level after the bump) leaves him wondering if he can do anything right.

He will fail.

He is a failure.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:50 PM
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32. With Rove gone, they will lack some of their former sophistication..
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 01:50 PM by Virginia Dare
in that regard. I think Dana Perino is a total airhead and not at all up to the job. John Warner is now free to hammer away at the administration on the war, and rumor is Hagel will soon do the same. Bush will have a rough go over the next year.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:39 AM
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3. We've been getting it all summer.
"The surge is working." We've heard that multiple time per day for months. Petraeus had his pre-report interview in Australia to help work out the kinks in his talking points.

As usual, the American public will swallow the hook.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:40 AM
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4. I've stopped listening
I can smell the bullshit before I even turn my TV on so why bother anymore. Cancelling cable this week.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:42 AM
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6. I don't even have TV
but I know this scenario.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:42 AM
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5. Reid has already said he will work with the GOP on extending the invasion
and giving up the idea of leaving or even some wimpy timetable withdrawal.

DC Dem leadership were never really on board with their constituents anti-war demands.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:47 AM
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7. I respectfully disagree.
The democrats are not being "outmaneuvered" by anyone. They are entirely to blame for their behaviors. To say the administration has outmaneuvered them implies that they are not exclusively responsible for their continued support and financing of the war of occupation in Iraq.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:53 AM
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10. Agreed. I should have said the
admin/repukes are intent on manipulating public opinion in anticipation of the report. I don't mean to give the dems any cover on this. They really don't deserve it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:57 AM
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11. One of the things
that I think is telling is that when Bush started fronting for the "surge," Patrick Buchanan was able to describe, without any chance of error, how the democrats would use this to script their continued support of the war of occupation in Iraq.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:48 AM
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27. Look for many new Dems going to Congress
in 2008 and 2010.

The current crop will be replaced with those who are willing to stand up to criminals in the GOP. I'm already considering a run myself.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:53 AM
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28. Not gonna happen
at least not in 2008. Even in my state, which is as pro-impeachment, anti-war, as any state in the country, Peter Welch will likely not even be challenged.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:58 AM
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30. Maybe not in your state
but watch for it to happen elsewhere. The tide is definitely turning and the Dem party is being rebuilt with leaders who reflect its values.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:48 AM
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8. The "surge" was never anything but an ESCALATION.
Surges subside, escalations only continue to escalate. They were lying then, and the lies are just going to come deeper and faster this week. . with the full-throated accompaniment of the wholly compromised media.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:53 AM
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29. They'll use their "Al-CIAda is off balance" LIE instead of their...
"the insurgency is in their last throes" LIE, because that one didn't work too well...

Of course, the bu$che/cheney Reich don't care about anyone dying for their LIES.

And maybe the pelosi/reid "two faced" accomplices don't care about them dying for their LIES too...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 08:48 AM
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9. Just serving condiments with steamed crap.
Not to worry.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:02 AM
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12. It's also part of the lead up to Operation Irani Liberation (O.I.L.)
Listen as he calls out Tehran during his speechifyin' today.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:04 AM
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13. I hope not, but
I'm afraid that you're right.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:20 AM
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16. yea, just like the Operation Iraqi Liberation too.
the US is just giving the Saudis more oil to play with, one dictatorship protecting another of course.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:35 AM
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20. O.I.L.
:rofl: sorry, couldn't help myself...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:09 AM
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14. Yep his little trip is going to show
that every things peachy keen in Iraq. Even the president can walk around hidden behind about 200 troops. Those who would get shot at before they got to the coward.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:10 AM
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15. Vacation should have been cancelled this year.. I mean we ARE at war,
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 09:10 AM by SoCalDem
aren't we?? And look how we howled at the IRAQI government's plans to take August off.. No leg for us to stand on..

There are ELEVEN undone YEARLY OCCURING bills that have to pass before 9-30.. What the HELL have they been doing for a whole year?(I realize that the dems have not been in charge the whole time, but sheez louise..)

Dems always back off when they are perfectly poised to make valuable points..and of course republicans love the vacuum.. Even though they are also "on vacation", there sure seem to be a lot of them availale to the media..
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:27 AM
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17. Iran war will infuse another $250 to $500 billion in war spending
...which will be good for Wall Street, war profiteers and big banks which benefit from this boost in U.S. Federal debt. Working American tax payers must bear the burden for this additional war cost in higher prices on all goods and services, future tax increases and the blood of their sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, husbands and wives. War is a racket!:hide: :yoiks:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:52 AM
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21. Is he really there or is the whole thing staged
at some out of the way place to look like he's there?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:54 AM
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22. Oh, c'mon
Of course he's really there. And he's really, really well protected, and he's really, really insulated from reality.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:56 AM
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23. Let the fascist propaganda begin!
:dem:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:38 AM
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25. Who watches tv on labor day? This is sad.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:40 AM
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26. Huh?
Where do I say anything about watching Tv? I don't even have one. (full disclosure, I often go over to my neighbors to watch when something "big" happens)
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:19 PM
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31. I did not mean you.
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 01:20 PM by roody
I also know what is going on in tv land because I read DU and others.
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