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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:06 AM
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It's Official --All 5500 Brits Pulled Out of Basra --Bush Furious LINK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=479468&in_page_id=1770&ito=1490

Gordon Brown is deploying the Brits out of Iraq. Just at the time Bush is about to argue the 'surge' is working and Americans need 'more time.'

This may portend a lack of British support in any attack on Iran.

From here on out folks, we are truly 'on our own.'

Congress needs to understand that historians will hold them accountable for not stopping the Bush/Cheney Administration. THere is still time to avert an attack on Iran, but Congress must act now --not after attacks have begun.

Only one apt description --'going from bad to worse.'
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:08 AM
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1. Where are all the prez candidates on the Iran Attack?
???? The silence is deafening.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:26 AM
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10. Some of themhave expressed opinions on the matter...
When asked Senator Hillary Clinton had this to say:

"I think President Bush has done, so far, the right thing by not taking the military option off the table, but not pushing it too much."

http://www.zombietime.com/clinton_on_iran_at_davos/

John Edwards has also chimed in:

"To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table."

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:bCrHhPj8jdsJ:www.thenation.com/blogs/notion%3Fpid%3D161493+edwards+iran&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:31 AM
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13. swell
so they are taking AIPAC's position. :banghead:
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rustydad Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:46 AM
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18. Their position.....
....with regard to AIPAC is that of having their heads up AIPAC's ass. And they do it to survive in Washington, not because they like the smell. AIPAC owns our government.......for now. Bob
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:36 AM
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44. ask AIPAC... I am sure they can speak for the majority of them.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:08 AM
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2. They better stop them and fast.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 AM
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3. The Brits have left Shrub* to hang by a rope out in the wind, so how do
...American troops feel about being totally surrounded I wonder? It looks like the Little Big Horn!
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:21 AM
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6. I appreciate your analogy, but for one thing. Custer didn't have nukes
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:32 AM
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14. No but he had repeating rifles and revolver pistols while the Sioux Warriors
...had mostly spears, bow and arrows and knives, but also the advantage of superior and over whelming numbers.






http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.sonofthesouth.net/union-generals/custer/custers-last-stand.htm&h=501&w=567&sz=125&tbnid=lWzIDDPbWTk0gM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=134&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlittle%2Bbig%2Bhorn%26um%3D1&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:27 AM
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43. Unless you're willing to kill EVERY single enemy soul...
> I appreciate your analogy, but for one thing. Custer didn't have nukes

Unless you're willing to kill EVERY single enemy soul,
leaving not one enemy man, woman or child alive any-
where in the world, and to also kill anyone who would
take revenge for the people you've killed, nukes can't
end an asymmetrical war.

Tesha
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:22 PM
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30. Custer is a good analogy to *
Some historians think that Custer had narcissistic personality disorder.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:25 PM
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34. yes, but Custer dressed better... n/t
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 AM
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4. The devastation in Basra is already being used by GOPers
They are saying "See. That is what will happen if we leave Iraq". Bah. If we had true reporting we would already be seeing that IS what is currently happening all over Iraq.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:34 AM
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15. Then they should start calling for a draft
c'mon Repubs... if winning in Iraq this that absolutely critical, then let's start drafting! And nationalizing the military-industrial complex! And war taxes!




Well?




Sorry, I can't hear you over the roar of the cricket.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 AM
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5. You forgot Poland!
Poland still has 900 troops in Iraq but they are leaving very early next year.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:21 AM
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7. I guess Bush will attack England now.
:dem:
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:23 AM
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9. "Your with us or against us."
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:27 AM
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11. Or at least ...
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:27 AM by LeftishBrit
start eating "Freedom and Chips" followed by "Freedom Muffins".

Oh, and you can be charged with sedition if you drink a nice cuppa tea.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:21 AM
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8. out of the city
they're all at the airport now...
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:30 AM
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12. Good. We should have never gone in there in the first place.
What a disaster it has all been for everyone.

To hell with Mad King George and Benedict Arnold Blair.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:58 PM
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35. So now the nationalities are reversed
The original Mad King George was British, and the original Benedict Arnold was American!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:39 AM
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16. I thought there were only 500 British troops in Basra
Edited on Mon Sep-03-07 10:43 AM by DemReadingDU
Those 500 were leaving city of Basra to be with 5000 other troops at the Basra airport

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2374396.ece


edit to add snips from the article...
The final 500 British troops in Basra city last night withdrew under the cover of darkness from their base, a former palace of Saddam Hussein.

Basra airport will now be the only base for the 5,500 soldiers still serving in southern Iraq. With the palace base handed to the Iraqis, the Government is expected to announce that the British presence in Iraq will be reduced by 500 within the next few weeks.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:41 AM
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17. Anyone want to update "The Charge of the Light Brigade."
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:24 PM
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32. "into the valley of death rode the 600"
or something like that... grandma used to recite it to me, she had to memorize it for school!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:51 AM
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19. Brit Members of Parliment and Brit voters WILL hold Brown responsible if they don't pull out...
...and Brown knows this.

Blair was facing the same thing.

Bush most likely got the bad news when he met with Brown, even though there was no public acknowledgement of that little ditty.

I am looking forward to the Brits fully investigating the reasons for starting this war.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:23 PM
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24. Umm, as Broon essentially controls the timing of an election till 2010
I doubt we'll get a chance any time soon
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:59 AM
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20. Well this hasn't made the cable news here yet.
MSNBC is catapaulting the propaganda.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:14 AM
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21. will they still call them Coalition Forces?
or will they start telling the truth?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:19 AM
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23. Wonder how much foreign aid was paid for each 'Coalition soldier' on the ground in Iraq...
When Bush was putting together his 'coalition of the willing' it was reported that countries were being paid huge sums of money to send token soldiers so that Bush could claim a coalition existed.

Anyone have a link on that?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:17 AM
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22. CSPAN-1 just read the story indicating that the Brits have pulled out of all bases in Iraq...
The Brits are leaving --no way for Bush to spin that.

When Patraeus' report is made public, we need to ask why the Brits are leaving if the 'surge' is working?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:23 PM
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31. "All our base are belong to you!" -nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:31 PM
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25. if it all weren't so grim -- it would be funny.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:35 PM
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26. I wish
my *cough cough choke choke* President would borrow some brain matter from Brown and do the same thing.
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KiraBS Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 01:17 PM
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27. It is being played quietly....
It isn't headline news yet, because they want them out safely...
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 09:55 PM
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28. Cheers to our brothers in arms across the pond...
:toast:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:21 PM
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29. K&R
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 10:25 PM
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33. Freedom leaf infusion, anyone? -nt
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:06 PM
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36. "Why are the Brits are leaving if the 'surge' is working?"
This is proof that the "Surge" is working. The Iraqis stood up & the Brits sat down.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:13 PM
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37. Read the article - It's real NEWS reporting like we don't see any more in the US
Leave it to the Brits (and actually the rest of the world) to give the whole story. It's being played here as a successful handover to the local police and security forces but it looks like the Mail sees it differently.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:12 AM
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38. The 'Mail' is in fact a very right-wing and unreliable paper; but here it's saying essentially the
same as the more reliable papers.

Here's an article on the subject from 'The Guardian'.

www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2161946,00.html
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:36 AM
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39. Seconded
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 02:37 AM by Prophet 451
The Daily Mail is somewhere between the National Enquirer and Weekly World News with the politics and attitude of Faux news (or, increasingly these days, Combat 18).
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:41 AM
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40. Like he said they got it right this time..
The Guardian said about the same thing. News you won't see or hear here in America.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:56 AM
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42. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day
Even The Mail and/or Faux are bound to hit on accurate info once in a while, if only by chance.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:54 AM
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41. HaHa - Furious George
I wonder what the man with the yellow artificial heart thinks about it.
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