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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:16 AM
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Rove advised Bush against picking Cheney as VP: report...
'Recently-departed White House adviser Karl Rove warned George W. Bush ahead of the 2000 election that picking Dick Cheney as his vice president would be a mistake, according to a new book set to hit bookstores Tuesday.

The Washington Post reported Monday that in the book -- "Dead Certain: The Presidency of George Bush" -- journalist Robert Draper reveals that Bush was intent on picking Cheney as his running mate, despite his warnings against it.

"Selecting Daddy's top foreign-policy guru ran counter to message. It was worse than a safe pick -- it was needy," Draper quotes Rove as saying.

Once he took office, the president "saw no harm in giving his VP unprecedented run of the place," Draper wrote.

The revelations about the inner workings of the Bush White House comes with just 18 months remaining in his presidency, and with the US leader widely deemed by the Washington political establishment to be a lame duck.

The book is said to show a Bush administration wracked by internal dissent and infighting, contrary to the popular image of a tightly-run administration which moves in lock-step.'

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Rove_advised_Bush_against_picking_C_09032007.html
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:26 AM
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1. Chalabi = 1. Who were the other 2 crook$?
"(...) three exiles assured the US leader that "Iraq would greet American forces with enthusiasm. Ethnic and religious tensions would dissolve with the collapse of Saddam's regime. And democracy would spring forth with little effort," Draper wrote."
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:35 AM
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2. Yeah, but you don't really believe this, do you bridget?
I mean, it was obvious that Cheney was going to be Bush's vice president.
Hell, his cabinet was handpicked by Bush Senior, Cheney, and Rove.

The only thing that George Bush has got to decide on since he has been in office was which brand of pretzles to choke on, I mean, munch on.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:43 AM
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3. i believe that the force of Cheney's will is more permeable than any persons...
or group of persons he has run up against thus far though it is not my book; i would simply add that it is somewhat common knowledge that Cheney is considered thee most vindictive man in DC, and has been so for quite some time; in that environ i rather think he was not about to allow Halliburton profits to simply fritter away

he clearly understands the levers of power and imfo could not wait to get his hands upon them

this statement by this author, seems to me to be handing Rove a free pass from the other side of a mess that Rove helped to create in no small measure
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:58 AM
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6. That Rove didn't want Cheney around? I certainly believe that.
Rove had been planning to be the real President
while Georgie the puppet did what Rove told him
to, same as ever.

Cheney was a very real threat to this scenario.
A fatal threat, as it quickly turned out.

Cheney seized power, and Rove was nothing but an
advisor to a puppet until he became too much of a
liability to even do that.

I have a feeling KKKarl won't be following the normal
repub scenario of turning up in some high-paid
RW think-tank job 30 days after leaving the administration.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:51 AM
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4. Poppy wanted Cheney there to do the actual Presidentin' while puppet Georgie played the role.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 01:02 AM by dicksteele
Rove knew this was a threat to him; HE had planned on
being the real President during puppet Georgie's term.

And it turned out WORSE than he had imagined- Cheney
didn't just win the battle with Rove to be the real
President (which probably took as much effort as beating
a kindergardener at chess)...

No, the REALLY bad news was- Cheney isn't following Poppy's
orders anymore either. He's out-couped the coupers, he's
gnawed through his BFEE-uniform leash and he's off the reservation.

He's not just making Georgie look good like Poppy told him
to do, he's seized command of the whole shebang.

THAT'S why Poppy has been kissing up to Clinton, and crying
in public;
THAT'S why Poppy and the Chimp are having their meetings
with world leaders at Poppy's house these days. Not SAFE
to plan things at the White House- that's CHENEY'S house.
Wouldn't be prudent!

After spending his life building the BFEE behind the scenes,
just when all his grand plans were coming to fruition...
Poppy's most evil disciple overthrew him.

Vader has ousted the Emperor and sits upon his throne.
But there is no Luke in this story; Vader just wanted
the Empire for himself.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:53 AM
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5. "to do the actual Presidentin'"
like your breakdown too :thumbsup:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:27 AM
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8. Very Good Analysis (Thanks for Thinking It Out)
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 06:28 AM by Demeter
Every point makes sense, and there are no gaping holes, either. You have successfully wielded Occam's Razor!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:02 AM
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11. I do still have my occasional moments of clarity, don't I ?
And that razor was just lying there, gathering dust. KnowhutImean?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 06:36 AM
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9. This Explains Hillary's Unearned Confidence and Pelosi's Inertness
They think they can outplay Cheney if they just wait for an election that Cheney has no reason to allow to happen, and lots of tools to prevent.

We are so screwed.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:00 AM
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7. actually, * didn't pick him
the big dick picked himself. :eyes: no, really.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:03 AM
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10. True. Cheney was tasked with the job of finding a VP and found himself
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