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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:58 PM
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A freeper fundie and the black churches.
I was talking to a fundie I know today. This person is, unfortunately, a relative.

In the course of our conversation, I told him that I did not appreciate the mega-churches who had political Sundays, where they invite republican speakers and told members how to vote and who to vote for. I told him that I knew it was common. I have seen excerpts of some of those services on TV.

I told him that I objected to the voter guides that appear in some churches, too.

He retorted that the black churches do it all the time. I told him that when black churches invite speakers, they do not tell their members who to vote for. They don't invite speakers from only one party. Their purpose seems to be to inform, not indoctrinate.

He told me that I had never attended a black church, so I had no way of knowing that. I told him that he had never attended one either, so how did he know?

Is this sort of argument common? Not long ago, another freeper type tried to give me a hard time about "all the black churches" where Kerry spoke. I told him that Kerry spoke where he was invited to speak, and if Bush* did not feel welcome in black churches, or in front of the NAACP, it was because of his own behavior toward the black community.

Is there something else I could have said? I was quite surprised to hear this sort of shit for the second time. We all know what the mega-churches are guilty of.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:04 AM
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1. In Louisiana the law against churches being political has always been thought of more as a
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 12:05 AM by RGBolen
suggestion. Voter guides are very commonplace, usually under the guise of an organization. And they are handed out in churches all the time. Candidate led donations to church building funds are always appreciated as well.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:06 AM
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2. I have not heard of any Black churches doing this but, I have with the
fundie churches. One white church got in trouble for promoting Kerry in 04. That is only what I have heard or read. They may be thinking of during the Civil rights movement when association with the democrats was very obvious.
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Snot Hannity Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:09 AM
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3. I vaguely remember reading that
a bunch of black churches in VA endorsed George Allen because those churches were against gay marriage (and this was after the Macaca incident). So, I guess both you and the fundie are partly correct and partly incorrect.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 09:20 AM
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4. There is a large black Baptist church in Oklahoma
that invites and hosts candidates and gives them an opportunity to give their stump speeches. They do not do it during their regular services. It is a separate event. A separate event for each candidate who chooses to come. I believe they invite both Dems and pukes. I saw both Edwards and Clark there during the 04 primaries. Both appeared during a weekday afternoon. All of the materials made available were provided by the candidates. Clearly this was an effort to bring in as many of the candidates as possible. They also hosted several other candidates. Not sure what the church does as far as distributing voter guides to their regular congregation.
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