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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:20 AM
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Evidence Grows That White House Planned To Release Cooked Intel On Iran
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 11:26 AM by kpete
Evidence Grows That White House Planned To Release Cooked Intel On Iran

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In little noted comments on Feb. 2, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley acknowledged that the Iran briefing was held back because it was “overstated” and not “focused on the facts.”

HADLEY: The reason we put the intelligence briefing on hold was really two reasons. One, we thought we’d better get the NIE out so people could see the full context, which you now can. And secondly, quite frankly, we want to make sure that if we put out intelligence, the intelligence community and MNFI can stand behind it, because we are sensitive to try and put out the facts as accurately as we can. …

Q And now been pushed back. Can we conclude anything from that other than people looked at the intelligence that was set to offered and said, this is not good enough?

MR. HADLEY: No, I wouldn’t –

Q Does that mean there was a willingness to overstate it?

MR. HADLEY: The truth is, quite frankly, we thought the briefing overstated. And we sent it back to get it narrowed and focused on the facts.http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070202-6.html


But a new report in the National Journal states that it was the intelligence community, not the White House, that demanded the briefing be “scrubbed” of overstated claims:

At least twice in the past month, the White House has delayed a PowerPoint presentation initially prepared by the military to detail evidence of suspected Iranian materiel and financial support for militants in Iraq. The presentation was to have been made at a press conference in Baghdad in the first week of February. Officials have set no new date, but they say it could be any day. http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/005629.html


Even as U.S. officials in Baghdad were ready to make the case, administration principals in Washington who were charged with vetting the PowerPoint dossier bowed to pressure from the intelligence community and ordered that it be scrubbed again.

more at:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/10/iran-cooked-intel/
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:21 AM
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1. So someone leaked the story to the NY Times instead.
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 11:23 AM by Kagemusha
...Here. Says Feb 9

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:54 AM
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7. Thanks forthe Screen Shot of NYT's. They leak to NYT's and
then whip up support from Neo-Con Leaders and the RW Repugs to pressure the Bushies to release the information that they are "holding." It's that "anticipation" that Moonie Paper followed by Faux in concert with Limbauh and the rest of the crowd that they "THINK" will allow them to do Iraq Part II following the same script.

If Congress and the People haven't wised up to this tactic by now then we are truly in the last days of Empire. :-(
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:22 PM
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11. Sure...
Full credit goes to a Kos poster called 'spread the word IRAQ NAM' but at any rate it's under 1st amendment fair use... just was in a hurry to put the screen up for relevance. After all, this leak is intended to make the eventual making public of the evidence seem more credible now that you have a quote of Lieberman saying that the evidence is compelling, for instance. It's careful stage management.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:42 PM
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34. Isn't it strange that Lieberman thinks everything is compelling?
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Seattleman Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:45 PM
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48. It isn't strange at all
But it does cast the light of truth on the issue of why we are there in the first place. It isn't for oil.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:36 PM
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12. Oh Good, now Darth Cheney can go on Tim Russet and say "it's in the NYT, it must be true"
yes, mr. potato head's mis-spelling was intentional:evilgrin:
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:50 PM
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17. Sure, that's why I'm drawing attention to this.
It's tricks of the spin control trade.
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 08:39 PM
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24. 'NYT' Reporter Who Got Iraqi WMDs Wrong Now Highlights Iran Claims

From Raw Story:

'NYT article appears to violate policy on using unidentified sources; Gates: 'Pretty good evidence'
he article, "Deadliest Bomb in Iraq Is Made by Iran, U.S. Says," written by Times military affairs correspondent Michael R. Gordon, refers to "civilian and military officials from a broad range of government agencies" but only identifies one original source used on the record, Lt. Col. James Danna who provides no quotes about any Iranian involvement. Gordon's article also refers to public statements made by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

But in February of 2004, the paper issued a "restatement" of their "sourcing policy," after controversies arose regarding its coverage of the Bush Administration's pre-war WMD claims about Iraq and the scandal surrounding Jayson Blair, who was discovered to have not only plagiarized many of his articles but also to have invented sources.

<snip>

Gordon's article doesn't contain any explanation why his sources were unidentified, nor does it even come out and explicitly say that anonymity was granted.

"Whenever anonymity is granted, it should be the subject of energetic negotiation to arrive at phrasing that will tell the reader as much as possible about the placement and motivation of the source — in particular, whether the source has firsthand knowledge of the facts," the Times policy states.


http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/NYT_article_appears_t...

From E&P
'NYT' Reporter Who Got Iraqi WMDs Wrong Now Highlights Iran Claims

NEW YORK Saturday’s New York Times features an article, posted at the top of its Web site late Friday, that suggests very strongly that Iran is supplying the “deadliest weapon aimed at American troops” in Iraq. The author notes, “Any assertion of an Iranian contribution to attacks on Americans in Iraq is both politically and diplomatically volatile.”

What is the source of this volatile information? Nothing less than “civilian and military officials from a broad range of government agencies.”

Sound pretty convincing? It may be worth noting that the author is Michael R. Gordon, the same Times reporter who, on his own, or with Judith Miller, wrote some of the key, and badly misleading or downright inaccurate, articles about Iraqi WMDs in the run-up to the 2003 invasion.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%...


On Edit: Why does this guy still have a Job???
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:54 PM
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27. This "guy" doesn't even exist!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:49 AM
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45. what BS our names are on those bombs, what BS!!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:22 AM
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2. CNN reported this a.m. they are planning to release 'evidence' tomorrow.
It's still in the oven, I guess.
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:23 PM
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39. They haven't even put it in the oven yet.
When it comes out, it will be only half-baked!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:26 AM
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3. I first read it as Iraq... being so many things coming out about it...
On with the status quo of cooking up intelligence for __________ (pick a country). I'm NOT surprised. It's just absolutely SICKENING.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:37 PM
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16. Downing Street Memos is the first thing I think of. Think about this - if IWR contained
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 01:37 PM by blm
the language that PROOF of WMD was REQUIRED, this gang would have been motivated to make certain that some WMDs were planted. Rest assured, they would have been riding the easy train on that 'discovery' for many years. In a way we should be grateful for BushInc's arrogance and sloppiness here, if they were more careful we'd be completely screwn even now.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:57 PM
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22. Good point.
:hi:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. True, and yes a good point...
but makes me think of David E.Kelly. I'm not sure they needed the language to make them think they ought to "find" the proof.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:27 AM
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4. And to think it was four years ago this very week
Edited on Sat Feb-10-07 11:28 AM by rocknation
When Colin Powell served up cooked evidence about Iraq to the UN...

:eyes:
rocknation
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:23 PM
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37. That's a great point, rocknation.
It deserves being shouted since the correlation is apt and clear: cooked then, cooked now.
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oldtimecanuk Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:35 AM
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5. Somebody, please take that damn football away from * .....
He is going to get us all blown to hell if someone doesn't check him soon.... Damn, this is so scary...

Didn't take Gates long to get into a steady diet of Cool Aide .....

ww
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 11:37 AM
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6. These guys don't learn, do they?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:18 PM
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9. The question is: Have we as a nation?
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #9
28. Well, as our wise president once said, "Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on you.....uh, how does that saying go again?"
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
36. Until Congress or some other institution
says EfuggingNOUGH and hauls these criminals out in chains, we are collectively screwed.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:50 AM
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46. the thing is are we going to let them do it???????
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:38 PM
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13. They are JohnnyOneNotes, aren't they?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:15 PM
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20. That's all they need to be - they own the apparatus.
Plus they aren't really bright or creative, in fact quite lazy, otherwise they'd have made their own money rather than sucking off the government teat all these decades.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 05:43 PM
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19. No, but thank God we do. n/t
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:13 PM
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8. deja vu all over again. IMPEACH!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 12:19 PM
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10. IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
and this needs to be done NOW!

IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!

After this, we must indict and imprison!

:kick:





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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:14 PM
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14. Another "R"!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 01:16 PM
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15. Though We All Knew This Already, Ain't It Refreshing As Hell To Have It Part Of An OFFICIAL Hearing?
I'm lovin this new majority. Lovin it. Now we just have to hope more and more comes out publicly so that all the sheeple start becoming aware to the truth, as we have.

I think this is only the beginning.
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seesdifferent Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 05:37 PM
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18. Keep watch on the USS Ronald Reagan
this is this carrier is the final piece; it's mission is mysterious at the moment.
http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2007/02/10/the-mysterious-mission-of-the-aircraft-carrier-uss-ronald-reagan/
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:25 AM
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30. One of our local carriers set off for the Middle east last month..
after being told for a year that they were leaving for the Pacific. Suddenly, with a week or two's noticed, they shipped out a few months EARLY and to the Middle East.

They're doing it, those fucker's are doing it, aren't they? What do you want to bet we have our pilots flying over no fly zones in Iran trying to provoke them? As you recall, we did that in Iraq before the invasion.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 07:40 PM
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21. According to the Washington Post
The Bush cabal plans to claim that Iran is harboring Al Qaeda members.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/09/AR2007020902294_pf.html
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 08:00 PM
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23. I'll kick that. - n/t
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-10-07 10:21 PM
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25. kick
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:22 AM
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29. They're doing it at this moment! Sunday news shows = propoganda.
Can our newly elected Democratic majority stop these assholes? We have to do something, the Yahoo news page every day for the past week has had a headlines story breathlessly reporting how IRAN is working against us in IRAQ. All the news-skimmers, CNN-Faux watchers, have to see is a headline and that gets them believing. The Psych Ops of our Pentagon KNOWS how to cook intelligence and public opinion.

Our country cannot survive another theatre in the Middle East. STOP the pre-emptive motherfucking wars!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #29
44. these maniacs are going by their bible of the PNAC it is all
written there. This has got to stop now.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:33 AM
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31. Besides the insane loyalists will anyone else believe any of this?
It may very well divide the nation for decades, but there seems to be no way of stopping the Bush/Cheney madness short of impeachment.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:35 AM
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32. Hey guess what. They still are, and millions of idiots will believe them.
Get ready for war in Iran.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:32 PM
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33. Russia and China
will have something to say about this. Putin has already spoken up. China and Iran are now economically tied together, and China has $trillion$ of the U.S. debt. Fitzgerald has Cheney in his gun-sight. The WH needs to "wag the dog," WW III, desperately.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:54 PM
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35. Why didn't we attack the USSR and China for providing weapons
to the other side, during the Korean war and the war in Vietnam? Both countries also had, and still have, nuclear weapons programs that are much more advanced and dangerous than Iran's.

And what about this...

UN denounces Israel cluster bombs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5299938.stm

*****************

A Walk Through the Rubble
Israel's Use of American Cluster Bombs
By FRANKLIN LAMB

Al Sultaneih, Lebanon.

As the initial assessment and clean up of American cluster bombs, estimated at more than 130,000 unexploded bomblets across the south of Lebanon, gets underway, unanticipated findings are emerging:

The breadth and depth of the problem with cluster bombs found in 498 locations in scores of villages as of September 9th was not expected. So far less than 4% have been disposed of, and 0 % of the villages in the south have been certified as safe for domestic or agricultural use by the United Nations ordnance disposal task force.

Even operators of heavy rubble clearing equipment are finding their work is stymied because Israel dropped cluster bombs both before and after many buildings were destroyed by bombs, and therefore cluster bombs are sandwiched between layers of pancaked walls and piles of rubble.

While the M-26 Cluster Bomb Unit may have looked "promising" at military demo shows when observed in ideal conditions of level, obstruction-free open areas, using "polished bomblet" conditions, the reality is very different in villages which are seeing not the military touted "dud rates" in the 1% to 4% range, but rather "dud rates" in the 40-60% range. No weapons with this performance statistic would be taken seriously at arms sale outlets.
MORE....

http://www.counterpunch.org/lamb09142006.html

And who made these...and the ammo they were using?



And these?



And these?




"LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE!"

America and the world, are under the very same type of PROPAGANDA attack that we were subjected to in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.



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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 07:20 PM
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38. The media propaganda has begun. Yes its official Iran is the new target!
I live in Santa Cruz California and the so called Free Press which has been bought out, started its Iran War push on saturday, of course just regurgitating "U.S. Intelligence", which is at this point a great play on words lol.

The most notable because of its location is the San Jose Mercury News which ran On its front page:
"IRAN PROVIDING BOMB, U.S. SAYS
the most lethal weapon used against U.S. troops in baghdad is supplied by Iran, according to U.S. intelligence. PAGE 10A"

It also showed up in the SF Chronical, and the Santa Cruz Sentinel which is actually owned by the Mercury News as of a week ago. God I love media Consolidation!

The santa Cruz Sentinel went as far as to show a picture of the Aircraft Carrier USS john C. Stennis which is now in the Persian Gulf ready for duty. and had a great write up and cry for battle with Iran on page A-6

The Chronical or the So called liberal paper followed suit with the same regurgitated intelligence.

This is the so called free press, WOW bought and paid for!
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 10:50 PM
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40. I'm SHOCKED! Shocked I tell you! (N/T)
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 12:14 AM
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41. Contact the NYT. Let them know we are watching
They are part of why we are in Iraq at this time.
Although they cast some doubts on today's assertions by US officials about Iran involvement in Iraq, they for the most part are saber-rattling for another war in Iran.


nytnews@nytimes.com
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 12:50 AM
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42. *
Edited on Mon Feb-12-07 12:52 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:42 AM
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43. Obama, Hillary, Edwards have all played into their hands
using their code words signalling their willingness to support a war on Iran, parrotting Bush's "nothing is off the table", when there are an infinite number of other approaches and rhetoric they could have used
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Roy Eidelson Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 05:46 PM
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47. Catapulting the Propaganda
As administration reports about Iran emerge, it is worth remembering this statement from President Bush in May of 2005 while speaking (about social security) to a group in New York:

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
(http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050524-3.html)
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