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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:14 PM Original message |
Help! "Understanding Poverty" by Robert Rector...I don't UNDERSTAND!! |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. kicking my own thread...hoping for some help n/t |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Someone needs to do some serious research to refute this crap! |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I KNOW this thing has to be bullshit, but I am having a hard time figuring out why. |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. First of all |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. liquid assets are the difference |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. "they may not have money to buy food or put gas in the car." |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Second, 45% of studies just make shit up out of whole cloth !!!! |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. {grin} |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. Okay For One Thing |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's not "total" bull shit |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. THANK YOU!! That is lovely. |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. print it out and staple it to their foreheads nt |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. "These people are doing the economic equivalent of treading water and any crisis may sink them |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. You make $12k a year, rent a crappy apartment, drive a clunker, |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's convenient they write this without any citations. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Understanding poverty" |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You have to understand |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. You hit on something that has concerned me |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That would be a wonderful program! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Instead of more charity "programs", which always involve shaming and criticism, |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. You are correct, Bobbolink |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Of course, you were thinking of your children first! But, it's just |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Exactly!!! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. "I feel like someone is going to see what a fraud I am" |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. He does |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Thanks for clarifying. I've had the pushing so much, it has damaged me, also. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. :/ |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. So??? Your point is? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. My point is: |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Many *ARE*!!! And it's growing! |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. It has nothing to do with growing a heart... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It's in the millions. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. See, this is what's wrong with the left. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. What I SEE is someone who wants to argue. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. This has some ammunition |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. another good resource |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. Kicking for the weekend crowd |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
17. First, it's bullshit because the HF is not a think thank. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
20. WIC, food stamps, school lunches, housing, medicaid |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Simple. No one can understand poverty unless they've lived it. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
22. TedRall has thoroughly debunked the Bushie Lies |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. It's stupid to debunk it, |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. SOME of them do |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. yes, there is still work to do |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Interesting read, but was that a debunking? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. Duplicate. n/t |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'll give it a shot. Even our basest beggars are in the poorest thing superfluous |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. Anecdotally, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Sometimes poor people own cars because they have no other way to |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. So, until American children look like the starving hoards in Africa |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Mississippi |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. Why is it only the CHILDREN?? Are we poor adults supposed to heave ourself off a cliff? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. Okay, here are some off the top of my head responses |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. One of many of their points to question |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The Section 8 rent subsidy program |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. When The Article States, "Own their own home..." |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. exactly my point |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
55. Just for starters |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. And furthermore |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. And to add to that |
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