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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:26 AM
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Bush, shrinks, and THE WEST WING. Is a doc treating Dubya?
WEST WING ran a few episodes where the president had sessions with a psychiatrist.

They had to sneak the shrink in to keep the press corps in the dark. All top secret-like.

It was a pretty good segment of programs.

Friends abroad think Bush is seeing a psychiatrist. Well, some of them think he is seeing a psychiatrist; others think he SHOULD see one.

There'd be thought disorders diagnosed and medications prescribed.

What do ya think?

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:38 AM
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1. Just Because He Acts Like He Is On Drugs
doesn't mean he is getting them legally. And if he is getting professional help, it isn't working.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:43 AM
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2. The nurse's notes on an inpatient stay with dubya would be fun to read.
"To date, the patient has not appeared to respond to multiple psychotropic medications. ECT should be considered..."
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:46 AM
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3. I Think They Should Try The Lobotomy
It is a dire case after all.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:47 AM
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4. LOL!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:47 AM
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5. That's what I was going to say.
If he has a doctor, then he needs to find another one. This one isn't helping. And if he is taking meds, the dosage needs to be adjusted. They aren't working, either.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:58 AM
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6. Could be a case of the patient minimizing. Not owning up to
the consequences of his actions.

"See, Doc, I'm a COWBOY."

"But are you really a cowboy?"

"Yeah. Sure I am. I'm wearin' these boots, ain't I?"

(The doctor glances at his wristwatch to see how long until this session is over...)
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:14 AM
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7. But Wearing Boots With All The BS He Spews Is Very
logical, proving he is not delusional. That only leaves psychotic.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:12 AM
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8. I'll sign on to 'psychotic.' Will have to leave it to health care providers
to tell me exactly what we're dealing with, but it looks serious, whatever it is.

Treatable but not curable, etc.

I wonder what kind of life landscape Laura Bush sees when she looks around her and regards her husband's role in the real world. As a couple, these two don't generate much heat.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:13 AM
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9. He's too vain, and as a hyper-religious kook
he's unlikely to see a shrink.. GOD is HIS shrink :puke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:28 AM
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11. Unfortunately you might be exactly right. Dubya isn't one to seek counsel
or listen to advice if it's offered.

At times I take the dark view that he is manipulated by the nihilistic puppetmaster Dick Cheney. At others I see Bush himself as Hud with an entourage, recklessly adrift and unmoored from familiar psychological cues and like as not to betray the entire spectrum of History to force his limitations onto the stage, whether at the behest of oil interests or the Saudis or you name it, or just as his own freelance egogoblin.

On DU and elsewhere people note that there's no material for a legacy in the 6-8 years of this administration. I almost wish that weren't so, but believe it is so, and it's been very bad for all of us.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:37 AM
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13. His "legacy" will be as our first (and hopefully, last) loose cannon president
He has always been a "wing it" kind of guy, and no matter how badly he screwed up, there was always a henchman from Poppy's crew, ready to clean up after him.. Unfortunately for US, his recent "job" has also been his most spectacular flop, and this time around he apparently decided to NOT call in the clean-up crew..
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:39 AM
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14. Yes. Even Reagan -- or someone in the Reagan White House -- had the
sense to call in help when Iran-Contra threatened to undo the whole show.

Agree with you that we aren't hearing any clarion calls from the Bush Oval Office.

A failure proud of its failure. Frightening.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:19 AM
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10. The President's Analyst
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:29 AM
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12. Hi, alredo. Good to bump into you on DU today.
Thank you for the link. I'm an imdb fan and am on there quite a bit. Hadn't thought to check this association, though, and say thanks to ya for it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:40 AM
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15. IMDB is a great source.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:42 PM
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17. That was my thought, too, Alfredo
One of my all-time favorite movies. :)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:10 PM
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21. I will have to see if I can find it at the local library.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:43 AM
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16. Are they making this conclusion based on his speech? Or the facial ticks?
Certain psychiatric mediations have visible side effects, in addition to making one seem just stupid :rofl:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:35 PM
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18. Not a very effective shrink, if so.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:02 PM
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19. Probably is seeing a shrink
But even if he is, it isn't going to make one lick of difference. Read up on psychotics, and you'll find there really isn't anything that can be done to "fix" them.

Psychology works on the basis of the patient recognizing they have issues and are willing to learn how to become a more effective person and deal with the patterning that causes the issues. With a psychotic, they don't recognize anything being wrong and figure everybody else has the problem. Not them. So they see no point in psychotherapy and it doesn't work for them.

Bush is clearly on drugs. Some days he's lucid, others not, some days slurring speech... it's all there. The guy is an unfixable wreck.

SANE and unafraid people need to work to get this guy out of office and confront our neurotic Congress and get them to step up to the plate on impeachment.

Why the hell haven't we launched a serious all out campaign to go after Republicans and humiliate them into voting for impeachment?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:04 PM
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20. A lobotomy is the only cure.
:D


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:34 AM
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22. What an image. Good lord, there he is -- the brush-clearin' Cowboy from
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 04:01 AM by Old Crusoe
the East Coast.

Yuck!

(The 'yuck' is not to your skill at the image work but to the subject!)
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