Bin Laden was dead-on about one thing in his speech.

Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the real terrorists and threats to human freedom.

"This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," he said.

Even though he is a terrorist, he was right about that. It's kind of funny the Bin Laden can see this, but most Americans can't.

fundamentalism. They have a point. We (and by we - I mean American corporations) are basically stealing from the people of the Middle East. The easy (and earth-sustaining) solution is to develop other means of energy. In the meantime, we must do something about the power corporations have taken (or been given), stop the madness and pay the countries who own the oil for it. Get the heck out of the Middle East and quit using Israel as a pretense to steal oil or anything else.

That tape is pure propaganda, straight out of Langley.

That shit has killed innocent people. He doesn't get to claim the mantle of Bernie Sanders, let alone Eugene Debs.

to understand where the real profits are to be had: WAR!

it once more. I am a capitalist and believe every one should be able to sell their talent but it always needs control. Any thing goes does not do well any more than state control of all talent works well. As far as I can see the Middle East is capitalist but with a police state hanging over it for to much control in the wrong way. It seems an endless battle to get it right so it works for the general pop. Our system seems to be hurting to many people right now but it could be pulled in. I think bin Larden is a capitalist also and he seems to want to control the people along with this. The police state can means a capitalize system also. I think the days of out side people taking over other peoples country to get what they have is what bin Larden is mad about and that has been a world wide movement for as long as I have lived, over 70 years. People want out side people out of their country. We keep saying we have the right to do it. A mess how ever you look at it. I still think we are on the wrong side of history on this one. The writing is on the wall but to back your greed up with a great army is hard to turn down.

video anymore.

Anti-Capitalism in Five Minutes or Less
by Robert Jensen

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/30/865/


snip...

We are told, over and over, that capitalism is not just the system we have, but the only system we can ever have. Yet for many, something nags at us about such a claim. Could this really be the only option? We’re told we shouldn’t even think about such things. But we can’t help thinking — is this really the “end of history,” in the sense that big thinkers have used that phrase to signal the final victory of global capitalism? If this is the end of history in that sense, we wonder, can the actual end of the planet far behind?

We wonder, we fret, and these thoughts nag at us — for good reason. Capitalism — or, more accurately, the predatory corporate capitalism that defines and dominates our lives — will be our death if we don’t escape it. Crucial to progressive politics is finding the language to articulate that reality, not in outdated dogma that alienates but in plain language that resonates with people. We should be searching for ways to explain to co-workers in water-cooler conversations — radical politics in five minutes or less — why we must abandon predatory corporate capitalism. If we don’t, we may well be facing the end times, and such an end will bring rupture not rapture.

Here’s my shot at the language for this argument.

Capitalism is admittedly an incredibly productive system that has created a flood of goods unlike anything the world has ever seen. It also is a system that is fundamentally (1) inhuman, (2) anti-democratic, and (3) unsustainable. Capitalism has given those of us in the First World lots of stuff (most of it of marginal or questionable value) in exchange for our souls, our hope for progressive politics, and the possibility of a decent future for children.

In short, either we change or we die — spiritually, politically, literally.

. . . as are the U.S. corporate influences which have taken advantage of the republican complicity and appeasement of bin-Laden's lure of our military forces to the Middle East. He's just another user, casting his followers against the humanity Bush has offered up for sacrifice to the duel of ideologies in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush and bin-Laden are one and the same. Neither deserve credit for pointing out the other's corruption and cruelty.

We can certainly discuss and agree about the negative effects of capitalism, but we really shouldn't be taking anything seriously from this man (or whoever is speaking). Elevating his rants and taunts to the degree that Bush does regularly in his speeches has allowed him to perpetuate his influence. Here in the U.S., it's the voices of the American people who are demanding an end to the Iraq occupationwhich should be heard -- not the voices of these 9-11 terrorists' violence.

delivery of this crap just as people are beginning to see the danger of the "personhood" of corporations and the use of this personhood in political endeavor. Then by actually doing something about it such as is mentioned here on a thread this a.m. the right wing freaks can say, "OBL followers doing away with corporate personhood are terrorists." Then everything they own can be taken away.