If Hillary Clinton Is The Nominee I Will Wholeheartedly Support Her

Right now she's my third choice after Obama and Edwards...

Jimmy Carter wasn't my first choice in 80... Ted Kennedy was...

Walter Mondale wasn't my first choice in 84...Gary Hart was...

Michael Dukakis wasn't my first choice in 88...Al Gore was...

Bill Clinton wasn't my first choice in 92... Bob Kerrey was...

96 and 00...The Democratic nominee was my first choice...

John Kerry wasn't my first choice in 04...Wes Clark was...

But in the end I always voted for the Democratic nominee for president...


There is no way I would ever cast a vote that would jeopardize a Democrat's chance of becoming president... The worst Democrat is always better than the best Republican...

... if he'd get rid of that craptacular balanced budget amendment bullshit.

EDIT: And if he'd do well *just once* on tv. Just once is all I ask - lol.

And there were times I was really bitter that my candidate didn't win the nomination...

given an opportunity in the GE. :hi:

And lately, the worst Democrat (which she isn't, by the way), is 10 times better than the best Republican.

:)

Maybe she IS the best person between her and the R, but that is as far as I would go ;)

:)

...donate money to her campaign, work for her and vote for her ... with my head held high.

I will always vote Democrat. I have never voted for a Republican. The history of Republicans is an ugly, evil one.

But I would be less than candid if I said I find all Republicans equally offensive...Some seem like decent people... They are just wrong on the issues...


Except for Bush...He's sui generis...There's nothing about him I find admirable...

....is enough cause for me to dislike them, even if they're polite and a delight. That's why I cannot really say I find some even remotely unoffensive.

Gerald Ford was pro- choice, pro-ERA, and pro affirmative action...He even wrote an amicus brief on behalf of his alma mata, the University of Michigan, when their affirmative action plan was challenged in the Supreme Court... I also don't think Eisehower was an "awful" president...

....with criminals, sociopaths, and evil freaks.

Even when I disagreed with his position on a subject, he would send letters explaining why he felt and voted as he did.

After gwb ascended, Warner became more concerned with supporting the gop than defending America. After gwb, Warners office stopped sending intelligent responses and started spewing the gop lockstep "after 911 everything changed" bullshit.

I no longer believe Warner is an honorable or honest man. I no longer believe he is a patriotic citizen. And I will NEVER AGAIN vote for a repuke.

They're braindead.

I guess I can add brain dead to the list.

John Edwards is my candidate, and I think he'll be the nominee if he wins Iowa. I'm not sure what I'll think or how I will feel if it ends up being Hillary, so I can't commit to voting for her if she is the nominee.

Intuitively I think Edwards is the "safest" and most "conventional" choice but who knows...

I just don't want to see a Republican make any more Supreme Court nominations and I have a feeling John Paul Stevens is holding on so a Democrat can appoint his successor...

O.K. not wholeheartedly
It would be too weird to go
Bush,Clinton,Bush,Clinton

I will do nothing, nothing that would in any way help a Republican to be elected president. Since I cast my first vote in the 1972 election the Democratic nominee has never been the person who I supported in the primaries, but I didn't pout and always voted for the Democratic nominee. Did then, will now.

Teddy Roosevelt couldn't win as a third party candidate and he was a former president ...

Last time we had primaries, people were fumbling all over themselves-- very early in the process, I might add-- to say that they'd support the Democratic candidate even if it turned out to be some DLC clown. That message was received. They were too damn anxious to compromise before they even had to.

You want to be ignored? Pledge blind support.

Sometimes people on DU seem to use "DLC" to mean "a Democrat who disagrees with me on anything whatsoever". Kerry is neither DLC nor a clown.

Beyond that detail, I disagree with your fundamental premise. Your implication is that a lot of people voting in primaries and caucuses who prefer Hillary (i.e., think she'd be the best President) will nevertheless vote for someone they consider second-best, provided that enough people posting to a left-wing forum threaten not to vote for her. Why should her supporters do that? I'm supporting Kucinich, and I wouldn't be swayed if a bunch of conservative Democrats threatened not to vote for him.

You might also consider 2000. A good-sized chunk of the left sent a different message, namely that they'd allow two right-wing Texas oilmen to take power rather than vote for a Democrat whom they didn't consider perfect. Did that message affect the 2004 primaries? Apparently not, according to you.

The fact is that the Democratic nominee is no longer chosen by a few party leaders in a smoke-filled room. there's no single decision-maker who's going to be weighing Nader votes or DU threats or anything else. I will vote for the Democratic nominee, even if it's Hillary (my eighth choice of the current eight), and I can be confident that my announcing that intention won't make any difference in the fight for the nomination.

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His positions matched theirs and they backed him in the primaries.

You're saying it doesn't matter when people come out a year in advance saying that they'll accept and support anyone, so long as they've got a capital "D" after their name? I think it does matter.

This idea picks up momentum and starts being reflected in polling data, and candidates get the message that they can safely ignore the base and start pandering to the right. After the primaries, I'm just fine with saying I support the nominee, regardless of who it is. But not before.

:toast:

I'd use the word "support" loosely. Yes, I'd likely cast the ballot. But would I volunteer like I did for Kerry? Not at this time.

If the GOP puts Crist on the ballot in Florida-- and his homosexuality is kept quiet -- it wouldn't matter much. Floridians have approved of Crist and as VP would put the state out of reach.

The numbers don't lie.

I'm doing everything in my power to ensure that she's NOT the nominee. But if she is, I will wholeheartedly support her.

will help elect the most qualified, most experienced person in the race that just happens to be a woman. Now for some good news.

One thing I will say in closing as I have known this for the longest and it will help others in here that support HRC.Lets understand something about the polling on HRC's negatives. Many in here that support Obama and Edwards and any of the more qualified others over look the fact that HRC's negatives are clustered mainly among Republicans and Republican leaning independents who would not likely vote for her in any circumstance.....So, do not let the negatives bring you down. Know from whom they are coming....One other thing, many on the right and many in here fail to grasp the crucial role that SYBOLISM plays in politics. Once HRC wins the nomination HRC will make her bid be the first ever WOMAN president of the United States. The key is WOMAN....and folks that is a BIG DEAL. It will over shadow every other issue and image in the campaign and HRC will campaign not as a woman but as the best qualified and best experienced and the one which can and will bring back America.....That my friends is the election of 08....

I do thank you
Ben David

Edwards is my second choice because he appeals to me on emotional level... Hillary is my third choice...

To vote 3rd party is a wasted vote.

I'm not voting for Ralph Nader if he runs. And I'm sure as shit not voting for Mitt Romney. And I am voting.

If Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Democratic nominee, I will vote for her. Period.

It's a no-brainer for me. If it's Hil, so be it.

time and money in support of the democratic party, including the eventual nominee for the Office of the President.

Because it is her responsibility to clean the mess she helped make with her Iraq war vote. I definitely then believe she needs to atone for that and to be criticized for the four years she would be there for every day it lingers on and every day she goes without reversing the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, the Real Id Act, and all the executive orders that gave dictatorial powers to the "presidency." And of course, not knowing if we will then be blowing up Iran or some other country in that region by then or what else these traitors who will go unpunished will leave us with if they even leave, the next four years aren't going to be pretty. So she shouldn't get to hide out in the Senate... she should be in the one office that will spotlight her true colors every single day and if she doesn't do the above and much more she should be eviscerated for it like any other "president" of the military/industrial complex. If people think she or anyone else is going to have a glorious legacy after what was left us and what will still linger on I think they are mistaken because frankly, I think we have given too much away to get it back in four years. But if she really wants to be in it, she will then have to deal with the heat from it as well because she will get no special treatment from me, and that will go for anyone allowed to have that position by the interests that really choose the president of this country.

Too much annointment and inevitability makes a voter not care.

But I would support Mickey Mouse if he was the Democratic nominee and Frederick Of Hollywood, Rudolf Ghouliani, or Mittens was the Republican nominee...