MSNBC impeach bush poll is at 89% with 520k votes

The poll is still open too. How much further can the pendulum swing?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/?polls=is_open

triangulate away!

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 519340 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
89%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.2%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
5.4%
I don't know.
1.9%

That's what they mean by "Not a scientific survey." Support for impeachment growing? probably. 89%? not so much.

they also say that internet polls are generally inaccurate because they are based on the fact that people are CHOOSING to vote in them. But isn't that what people do when they vote for ANYTHING? I could choose not to vote in the Gen Election if i wanted to...

:eyes:

i don't trust MSNBC anyway.

As for 89%, i don't believe that figure either. But the fact that MY FATHER, a Republican of 30 or so years agrees that he should be Impeached is a strong indicator to me that the # is significantly higher than the standard line of "30% or so favor impeachment". I'd put the # closer to 50%... and that's A LOT!

The problem with your analogy (don't get me wrong, every analogy has a problem) is that in general elections, the political parties are trying to mobilize their supporters. Often that is true in voluntary Internet polls as well, but in this case it looks like only one side showed up. Which is why neither one of us is taking 89% very seriously, although the sheer number of votes cast for impeachment is interesting.

Democrats tend to overinterpret rogue Republicans and vice versa. I haven't seen anything to make me think that support for impeachment is over 40%. Of course the number will depend on how the question is framed. Probably there are more people who think that Bush deserves to be impeached than think that he should be impeached.

They are not scientific, are never reported, and are purely an advertising gimmick for the site to show their advertisers how many 'clicks' they get. I regard them as "for entertainment only".

so it could be a browser/cookie/firewall/PC problem that keeps some of you from voting. and i was just thinking we'd be set if voting in the general election was this easy. it looks like there's still a few cases of voter disenfranchisement.

if you can't vote, it's probably because you voted already.

i feel dumb... i looked for a date on the poll itself and since it said live, i assumed they would pull it. i just now glanced at the associated article hehe.

it has the 21 Dec 05 date embedded in the code.

..This is a push poll.....with several options other than impeachment.

No matter how they word it, the vast majority want the chimp gone.

I doubt Pelosi would care even if the poll indicated 99% of the American people wanted Bush and Cheney impeached and removed from office along with his entire administration.

How does anyone know whether the votes are there or not? You don't know until you know.

I have to wonder how much Hillary has had to do with the decision by Pelosi to keep it "off the table" since of course if Cheney and then Bush were impeached and removed from office, which is what most want, then she would become our first Madame President. Which might upset Hillary who of course wants to become the first Madame President. That won't happen if Pelosi moves to impeach and both Cheney and Bush are removed from office. She would become president. And she might actually elected to the office if she did so because of the overwhelming support she would have from most Democrats for having had the courage to force the issue. She would have no problem as the sitting president in getting the nomination. Which would leave Hillary where? Out of the race altogether.

As for political advantage, always the underlying reasoning given by most, the interests of the American people should supercede such advantage. Regardless of, or perhaps particularly relative to, who is best served by the advantage. The American people are not a partisan issue. They are, simply, the American people.

I have to wonder as well why Gore has refused to even consider running despite overwhelming support. I again have to wonder how much Hillary has to do with the decision.

The future of our country is going to be determined in 2008 and people need to finally start asking some really brutal questions about all the candidates. Including, or perhaps particularly, Hillary.

any delay in dragging that miserable failure out of office is dereliction of duty as american citizens.

With only one "Impeach" option and two "don't impeach", it splits the 'no' vote.

Instead of showing 5.4% 'no' and 4.2% 'hell no', if it was fairly worded it would show 89% for impeachment and almost 10% against.

Just to be fair.

:evilgrin:

is what is needed. Hell, if we cannot get our own democratic leadership to listen to us, don't know what else. I guess Pelosi still has impeachment off of the table. That many saying impeach him should be some sort of a pretty strong indication that is what the people thing.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 522307 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial. 89%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors." 4.2%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching. 5.4%
I don't know. 1.9%

heat got that bad.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 526671 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
89%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.2%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
5.3%

I don't know.
1.9%

But fear that if cornered, he would just nuke us and say it was Iran or China or Russia.

It may not be accurate. But when 89% of those who have voted think shrub is a criminal and should be tried accordingly, I think it is well worth a listen.

and it's still 89%! :bounce:

Wow, you've been around for awhile..but where ya been? :)