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DJKDJKDJK Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:31 PM
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SPIRITUALITY AND THE COMING (S)ELECTION
Well my friends. Well well well.

Couldn't we all use a wishing well right about now? We could all wish for enlightenment and peace on Earth. The further we dig our grave the further it will be to get out. An economic system based on war will continue to be an economic system based on war. The cycle, the wheel of fortune and the wheel of life will never end for those in power...those who support the Shadow Government. There will be no blind judgment on earth. Lady Justice of the Peace has essentially died.

It's time for us to take off our blindfolds and take a good hard look at who we're electing into office. A United PROGRESSIVE movement based around PROGRESSIVE principles will catapult this country and the world into the year 2700 in correlation to its current path. You want to time travel? You want to see the year 2700 in your life time. Let's start working for peace and only peace. Dennis Kucinich! He may not even solve all the problems but the shift needs to happen at the head before the tail can swing around. An Edwards/Obama/Clinton head would be more of the same ole. Invade Pakistan. Take corporate money. Investments in corporations not people!

It's insane. It truly is. I hope you all find a spiritual path, if you haven't already. The actions and the votes you cast do affect not only your life but the entire world. Don't be sorry, don't be stupid.

Vote with everything. Vote everyday. Make sure your judgments are sound and true though and for that you have to be "awake." Are you awake or are you just living in your own head?

You must be the change you want to see in the world.
To be or not to be. That is the question.

The writing is on the wall. If you're against the war...how can you support a candidate who isn't going to get us out of there and who will only continue the damage to our troops, Iraqis, our wallets and mess up the continuum of events for this planet to come. Parallel Universes, Time Travel...they sure do exist. You just need enough people on your side to make the changes necessary. To do that you must believe in Justice and you must be in Strength. If you give up you are a pawn in this game called life. The grass is always greener on the other side. So why not try and get to that grass. Why not make that grass green in your immediate environment? Maybe it will spread!

I'm not going to live forever in this human body, are you? I'd like to see a great future but it won't start for any of us being complacent with half-truth politicians and those of shoddy judgment.

Empower yourself and empower others around PEACE. Mission Impossible? I don't think so.

With Love,

DJKDJKDJK

P.S. Feel free to pass this around if it has inspired you to make a positive difference.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:40 PM
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1. Clinton would most likely be more of the same...
Obama would be a little better. Edwards a little better still. Kucinich has NO chance of winning the GE.

My opinion. Mileage may vary.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:55 PM
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6. You didnt rank Kucinich, where would you rank him?
If Clinton would be the same, then Obama and the Edwards, where would Kucinich fall? I'm not asking if you think people would vote for him, just where you think he would lead us, the same or where would he fall in your scenario?

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:59 PM
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7. He'd probably be the best choice...
Still, he has no chance. None. There are people HERE who absolutely despise him for his new age beliefs. The corporate media would crucify him.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:01 PM
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9. Isnt that insane that he could be the best candidate but people wont vote for him?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:12 PM
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10. Yep...it is.
But it's important to understand what we're up against and what sacrifices might be necessary to combat it.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:32 AM
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17. He's gonna have to defeat all the broadcast networks
and the corp news networks too.

But you know what, I'm going to help him do it.

Hope you do too.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:12 AM
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25. If people won't vote for him
he's not the best candidate.

Nothing he's said or done has ever indicated he'd be an effective President. He might make a good priest, though.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:19 AM
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29. That's basically what it comes down to...
As much as people might wish he was.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:36 AM
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30. Then he should
go take vows and stop his vanity campaigns that are doomed to failure.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:23 AM
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14. You know, Carter got elected, so can Kucinich.
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 01:30 AM by crikkett
Carter was such a relief after Nixon/Johnson/Ford.

Think about it. Bush is so much worse. We need a humanist in office to try to set things straight again.

The next president is going to have a real mess on their hands, and honestly I think that Clinton isn't up to the task.

Clinton and Obama had the ability to put a hold on the wire-tapping legislation that was passed just before summer break, when Bush threatened to keep Congress in session until he got the law he wanted.

Why didn't they? Because they want to be safe and position themselves instead of standing for what's right. Or maybe they think expanding the executive's power to eavesdrop without a warrant is right?

The situation is too dire to elect someone who will give away my civil rights because to do otherwise it might make them targets of the * administration and the powers that own it. So they lost my vote.

Kucinich, on the other hand, has much more courage. His motto? Strength through Peace. It's about time don't you think?

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:35 AM
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18. It's pure idealism... Drop into the skeptics forum sometime
and get a feel for how they think about Kucinich. That's a prime example of how most Americans will perceive him, more or less. I hate to say it, because I myself don't hold his "woo" philosophies against him. But a lot of people will. And the corporate media would turn him into a clown.

Carter was a different story. He was a serious, decent man and people saw that. They made a scapegoat of him anyway, primarily because he was a serious, decent man with a dumbass brother. And then Bush Senior and Reagan went behind everyone's back and made a deal with Iran (which, I believe, culminated in the whole Iran/Contra scandal which managed to get swept under the rug through the scapegoating of Ollie North and Admiral Pointdexter).

But I digress.

Strength through Peace is fine. But the common perception is that you have to hold an olive branch in one hand and a big stick in the other--at the very least. The problem with the neocons is that they couldn't find an olive branch with a horticulture guide and an army of experts.

I wish America was ready for the likes of Kucinich. But the fact is that it isn't, and it may never be.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:42 AM
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21. On social conditioning
How many people decide to vote against their own best interests because they think it's more important to back a name that SOMEONE ELSE says has a chance of winning, I wonder, rather than making their own informed choice based a reasonable evaluation of the candidates' work records?

And, isn't it so much social conditioning that drives you to disenfranchise your own self in that way?

Do you really think that the other guys are going to vote for someone that they think WE would accept? Or will they support the person who best reflects and supports their interests and the change THEY want to see?

Who's the kingmaker here? You and me? Oprah? Rupert Murdoch?

On another note, now that I'm off my soapbox,

I don't know what you mean by Kucinich's 'woo philosophy'... cite an example please.

I see interviews where corporate news-readers try to make Kucinich out as a clown and he holds his own, every time.

He hasn't said one embarrassing thing yet, that I've heard. Please tell me what you've seen, so I can make an informed choice.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:48 AM
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22. Kucinich is a vegan with a lot of new age beliefs...
That's what I mean by "woo." And you wouldn't believe how much venom heaped on him there is by some of our very own DUers. They despise him in a way that made my head spin. I'm dead serious.

No one is telling me this. I don't ever watch the corporate news. I'm basing it upon my own observations and what I myself understand of people. He's not electable because he'd never be allowed to be elected.

No matter how much we'd like it to be different, it isn't.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 03:39 AM
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23. You know what's funny, my parents are vegan
for health reasons. They're NASCAR fans and church folks and they're shopping for harleys. They have a TV that takes up an entire wall. My mom watched this PBS TV show and read a book and plunged right into vegan-ism? like it was the south beach diet or something. Bought all the gadgets and everything. The next time I call home she's asking what hummus is and what are my favorite juicer recipes.

6 months later she's off her blood pressure medication AND her type-II diabetes medication. Dad's cholesterol is down to reasonable levels so he's off his medication too. Both my folks lost serious weight and they look younger. They're spending a little more on food but saving serious dollars on meds, and they actually like the food. Oh, and their bowling scores are higher, how about that?

Me, I'm the one they call a hippie, (I'm not a hippie, my parents just call me one) but eat meat almost daily.

As for new age beliefs, at this time I'd happily take that over the last 7 years of family values.

Who's not allowing Kucinich to be elected? You, perhaps, because you simultaneously acknowledge that he's probably the best candidate, yet repeat this idea that other people maybe won't vote for him for the simple reason that he eats well and may be teased for it.

Anyway, we're all here to exchange ideas and learn from others so thanks for the discussion. In the end your vote is your vote to spend the way you desire. Don't be afraid to vote for the person who stands for what you beleive in, whatever that is. And may the best candidate win.

:hug:

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:03 AM
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24. I only wish I was talking about teasing...
And it's not the veganism that's the real issue. It's the new age stuff. Even pagans find a lot of it ridiculous. Personally I consider it a distinct improvement over the theocratic crap that's been inflicted upon us, but I'm more tolerant than most when it comes to that sort of thing. I think revealed religion is nonsense.

I was raised by hippies, so that's not an issue with me either.

No, they'll paint him as a kook who wants to hold hands and "wish" the terrorists away. And that's just for starters. Joe Sixpack and Sally Starstruck might be convinced to vote for a Democrat after this Bush debacle, but they'll never vote for a Dem they can't relate to on any level. And, like it or not, they're going to be a real factor in the election. They always are.
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DJKDJKDJK Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:29 AM
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26. That's a glass fully empty approach.
I'd hardly say you're a Taoist.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:18 AM
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28. I never said I was...I'm influenced by taoism, yes.
I don't think Kucinich has a ghost of a chance, regardless of how much some people might WISH he did. I fail to see what that has to do with Taoism at all.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:41 PM
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2. well well! Welcome to DU !!
I hope you're lurking in Astrology, Spirituality and Alternative Healing forum, you'll fit right in!!

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=245
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lips Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:47 PM
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3. IF YOU SHOT ME INNA DREAM YOU'D BETTER WAKE UP...
...and apologize. When has it ever been a mistake to say "I'm sorry"? And then, how are we supposed to make people aware of mistakes that we'd not like to see repeated? Why the fuck is it such an egregious crime against humanity or ourselves to admit the fact that we are human beings; we make mistakes and as such sensible fucking animals we should have the stones to know when we do and own up to it. Stupidity and peccability are not the same thing. Say your fucking sorry and mean it.

inspiring post DJKDJKDJK, :woohoo:.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:25 AM
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16. welcome to DU!
:hi:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:50 PM
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4. Welcome to DU!
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:39 PM
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5. Right
If the politicians do not reflect the people, what good are they. We are stuck in place or going backwards in this country socially. And the Earth is in dire straights.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:00 PM
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8. It's also spiritual (maybe more so, even) to demand equality for poor folk!
Given that, Edwards is by far the most effective candidate.

Spirituality=erasing poverty!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:47 PM
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11. I agree with everything that you said, DJKDJKDJK.
Yes, BE the change that you'd like to see in the world.

:thumbsup:

I join AZDemDist6 in inviting you to check out the Astrology, Spirituality and Alternative Healing group. :hi:

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:06 PM
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12. And love back at you.
It's tragic that so many good souls are being discared in the sole pursuit of gaining nothing. Been there, done that ... for a very long time before I became something. Like you I intend to move on to greener pastures and not return to square zero.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:45 AM
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13. Wow. what a beautiful post. I'm keeping my eye on you. Very special.
Thanks for sharing!!!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:25 AM
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15. Peace One Day
http://www.peaceoneday.org/home.aspx

Watch the video.

Peace...
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:18 AM
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20. BTW isn't 11/11 Armistice Day? Isn't that the Peace Day the
boy in the movie was wishing for?

Just asking.

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DJKDJKDJK Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:46 AM
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27. Cool video and cool idea...
I was actually thinking the same thing just the other day...a peace day for the world. Ha. I was beat.

Thanks to whoever bought my *
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:42 AM
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19. Right On!
you speak for me also


thank you!
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