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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:10 PM
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Ike Skelton was an embarrassment to the Democratic Party today
Just my personal opinion, but I thought Skelton came off as a doddering, spineless relic today.

Posturing for the cameras and displaying overt contempt for peaceful protesters. Refusing to swear-in Petraeus. Lobbing praise and softball questions. Asking nothing unseemly or cutting.

Skelton exemplified what we are up against from our very own Democratic "leadership" today. He seems to have absolutely zero idea of the real human consequences of what he does for a living.

Dead wood. That's it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:11 PM
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1. Some people just don't get it
WE ARE SERIOUS
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:34 PM
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19. If Our Democratic leaders won't stop the war, and the Sept. 15 protest won't stop the war
THEN

Call GE at 203 373 2211 and tell the person in Public relations that you will no longer buy any GE products until the GE CEO gets George W Bush to end the war in Iraq and then resigns with Cheney.

No justice, no commerce!!!
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:17 PM
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2. Have to agree
And when you consider his powerful position on the House Arms Committee, he should be holding congressional investigations and hearings on the gross negligence of Pentagon spending and no bid contracts. Not a peep out of the man. He is grossly inept and too incompetent to hold such a powerful position in congress.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:47 PM
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25. Why did Pelosi put him in charge?
Can't the house leadership do better than let congressmen compromised by defense contract money handle leadership of this committee?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:17 PM
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3. I thought he did a good job. Sorry it wasn't the vicious partisan bloodletting you
were hoping for.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:23 PM
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7. You must not be familiar with his record
You'll have difficulty finding any time when he supported the Dem party's agenda, though that may be why you like him.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:27 PM
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9. I don't know enough about him to have any preconceived notions--
but I thought he was competent today.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:30 PM
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11. "That really pisses me off, Duncan"
Yeah, real competent. And so professional too. :sarcasm:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:32 PM
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13. I'm sure he thought the mike was off. Geez. That's pretty mild.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:34 PM
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17. He was just a bit too friendly to Duncan
But hey, if that works for you, go for it.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:38 PM
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22. They've all worked together a long time--they're colleagues. Nothing
inappropriate about that.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:03 PM
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26. Skelton is a DINO
Believe me. I am from MO. Known of him for years now.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:34 PM
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18. F*ck Skelton
he's not objective, he's a shill for defense contractors. Always has been, always will be.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/memberprofile.asp?cid=N00005105&cycle=2006&expand=E01
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:32 PM
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15. If you like Congressmen
who are wholly owned by defense contractors and the energy industry, then he's your man.

Any Missourian will tell you he's a right wing lackey.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:32 PM
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14. vicious partisan bloodletting
would be a far cry better than the vicious non-partisan bloodletting happening in Iraq in my name and on my dime.

But at least he maintained decorum for you Doggie. That's what's most important in this world of ours, after all.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:36 PM
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21. His job was to head up the hearing, and keep order. Plenty of others had opportunity
to play more of a henchman role. You might not like my opinion, and yet you're entitled to it.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:44 PM
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24. Plenty of committee chairmen
have ripped witnesses new ones on many occasions in the past.

And "keep order?" With all respect, I think his job was and is to get to the truth. The Sergeant at Arms job is to keep order.

But really, he seemed to think that his job was neither “order” nor "truth" but putting on a nice conservative dog and pony show for the boys back at Rotary. You know, the ones with the caaaaash?
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:18 PM
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4. Skelton is a moron
He part of the problem - buddy buddy with the defense contractors and lobbyists. Trading favors for weapon systems. Bringing home pork to his district. Kinda like Murtha.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:21 PM
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5. Skelton has always been a Dino
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 10:30 PM by OzarkDem
I can't recall a time when he supported any Dem agenda. Ever.

Don't ever expect him to take sides with Dems on any issue.

He's been bought and paid for by defense contractors, big Agribusiness and energy company PACs.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/memberprofile.asp?cid=N00005105&cycle=2006&expand=E

The fact that Dems let him become chair of this committee is a travesty and another great example of poor Dem leadership.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:22 PM
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6. Biden's heading up the questioning tomorrow, I think--
Wonder how we'll be assessing that come tomorrow night. We have some Biden fans here.
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siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:26 PM
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8. Well-said! K&R.
n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:28 PM
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10. His remarks that he thought wouldn't be heard were the worst
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/09/10/sot.patraeus.intense.cnn
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:31 PM
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12. He's in bed w/ defense contractors
and the energy companies (Occidental Chem, Marathon and Exxon).
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:32 PM
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16. I know
I am just one congressional district away from his. And I was surprised he was re-elected this last time. His district is pretty red.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:35 PM
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20. Me, too
I used to live in Gephardt's district, still own property there. Skelton has a very long record of voting with the GOP.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:26 AM
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28. Yes...I was watching MSNBC when Skelton's mike was off and to see Duncan Hunter
and Dan Burton hustling over to help Skelton with his remarks about Code Pink and read him the riot act about "prosecuting" after they were thrown out was revolting. CNN didn't show the footage with the microphones on...but MSNBC did and that ass Brian Williams was thrilled with the whole thing going on to mention how some Dems in Congress were angry with Move On ad and there would be some "followup" from the Dems about it.

I turned it off after that...didn't have stomach to watch more of Skelton and the "Dog & Pony" show.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:39 PM
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23. You obviously want the Republicans to win in 2008
:P
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:09 PM
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27. "That really pisses me off, Ike."
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 11:10 PM by Bluebear
For that matter, they deserve more than what was offered by Representative Ike Skelton, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. When protesters interrupted the hearing, Mr. Skelton ordered them removed from the room, which is understandable. But then he said that they would be prosecuted. That seemed like an unnecessarily authoritarian response to people who just wanted to be heard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/11/opinion/11tue1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:49 PM
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33. Really
Our Dem leaders need to start thinking in new terms. The Republicans are the enemy!!! Why don't they get that?
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Tigermoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:32 AM
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29. His website has a pic of a B2 Stealth Bomber -- wannabe Chickenhawk
Yea, that's a symbol Americans should be proud of. :puke:

http://www.house.gov/skelton/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:34 AM
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30. I agree with you.
The Democrats need to take a lesson in democracy. Assholes!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:36 AM
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31. "Embarrassment" and "Democrat" are redundant of late.
n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:37 AM
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32. BUT was he an embASSment
to the dino party?
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:51 PM
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34. agreed
He gives democrats a bad name and will cause democrats to loose elections. Very embarrassing.
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