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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:23 AM
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Petraeus: "I wrote this testimony myself" - PDF shows Petraeus’s legal adviser as author

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/09/10/hmmm-where-did-that-come-from/

While Gen. David Petraeus underscored that his assessment of the Iraq war presented to Congress was indeed independent, one computer sleuth caught a curious discrepancy.

The PDF file of Petraeus’s progress report provided to the public lists the document’s author as “mark.martins,” better known as Army Col. Mark Martins, the top military lawyer in Iraq and Petraeus’s legal adviser. Richard Smith, a computer consultant for Boston Software Forensics and the man behind www.ComputerBytesMan.com, noticed the irregularity as he did a search of the PDF file’s properties (see image below).

Petraeus had been quite clear that he hadn’t shared the document with anyone. “At the outset,” he said as he began testifying, “I would like to note that this is my testimony. Although I have briefed my assessment and recommendations to my chain of command, I wrote this testimony myself. It has not been cleared by, nor shared with, anyone in the Pentagon, the White House, or Congress.”

Smith said he isn’t suggesting anything nefarious, but noted the contradiction with Petraeus’s comments. It’s hard to really say for sure what happened here,” Smith said, “Maybe Martins was simply the person who converted it (to a PDF).” Smith also noted that it wouldn’t be unusual for Petraeus’s lawyer to review the testimony beforehand, but Petraeus was notably adamant in stressing that his words were his alone.


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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:25 AM
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1. Not really a good indicator. The template used was could have been authored by the
lawyer or as mentioned in the piece, the lawyer may have been the one to convert it to PDF. While it may very well be that Petraeus didn't write the thing, this is not an indicator of that at all.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:29 AM
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2. I agree - but does put in to question the whole "I didn't share it" remark
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:23 PM
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7. So if you say you didn't share something
with all the people that are alledged to be your puppeteers, it means you didn't share it with your 'legal advisor'?

Do we just strip out words that we don't like, freely interpreting the remaining ones as suits us, and then claim that our interpretation is the only possibility for what the speaker originally said?

Ok, in some forms of post-modern literary criticism you get this. But there's a reason that English professors aren't your typical mechanical engineers or even members of the ABA.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:29 PM
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10. who said it's the only possibility for what the speaker originally said...
I think we are saying this could be catogorized as something that makes you go "Hmm..". Btw, that 'legal advisor' is part of the Pentagon... "anyone in the Pentagon"
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:28 PM
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9. Both of you have excellent points.
Personally, if I'd been in Petraeus's shoes, I'd have been a tad more careful.

Of course, knowing that he'd already shared a significant fraction of his findings with the Australian press last week, we knew that "I never shared this with anyone" was somewhat bullshit.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:40 AM
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3. His lawyer may have taken the orig doc and converted it
to PDF on his computer. Perhaps the General just didn't have a PDF writer on his computer.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:32 PM
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11. God knows the Pentagon is strapped for cash.
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 12:32 PM by Buzz Clik
Adobe costs around $150.

His words, "I didn't share this with anyone" has a very specific meaning. If he simply had his lawyer convert the file, that's not a big sin. But a military officer of this rank knows the power of words and the importance that every word be accurate.

blah.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:44 AM
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4. Rec'd though we know he's full of it - further proof here that many
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Wiregrass Willie Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:45 AM
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5. There are three things a man must do alone ...
So the old saying goes. They are - be born, die and testify. Except of course when it comes to Republican witnesses called to Congress -- who are allowed to have script writers. If we ever get these guys in the dock, there will be no script writers.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:14 AM
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6. Ptech software sharing btw WH and DoD ?
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 11:16 AM by EVDebs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptech

See 'Notable Clientele'. What's a Saudi software co doing with access to all this in the first place ? Maybe the Saudis wrote it for all we know !

(Ptech is now known as GoAgile).
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:25 PM
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8. Well, that's disappointing.
I was willing to accept a bit of bullshit, a sprinkling of personal bias, and the reality that, despite his military standing, he is still a political animal.

But this? No, this is unacceptable.
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