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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:38 PM Original message |
One Question: |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. " Administration gain " What gain do they need or want? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. In public perception |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
71. In public perception? Well, it was probably, and tragically, a gain |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Petreus got his ass kicked by his own Rethuglicans yesterday |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I agree. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Pressured by the WH? Absolutely... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think he added any new material to the discussion. |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. HUGE volumes. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. How do you think |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. If you listen to the comments on MSNBC right now |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. And remember, there's good evidence that he LOST that election. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I have been |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Unless we let them steal it again. I agree the Democrats will take |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. every time he opens his mouth... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Right. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Great question because there are lots of opinions. I think |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Didn't he also |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. He made a bad situation worse n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. No "Jude," he. n/t |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. To be honest |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. With a substantial |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. I see your point about a man in a uniform |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:43 PM Original message |
You almost got me with that one. Excellent post, and I'm glad I read it twice before |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. I've noticed that |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. We're on the same side, after all. And, as I said, I've FINALLY learned to read posts closely |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. I haven't seen it. But if you say he "spoke", can only come to one conclusion. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I've watched |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. Dupe-weird. nt |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. 36 nations? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. 36 Nations. |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
20. Well everytime Bush speaks his numbers go down |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I have to wonder |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Sacrificial goat, maybe? He is a lame duck... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I don't see |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
25. It hurt him |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I agree. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. i think the administration suffered a loss. way overboard with the lies. bad speech |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Do you think |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. great question...depends on how the media frames it |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. I suspect he'll get a small temporary bump |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Are they the |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. No, they're the people that sway in the wind |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
34. I think his newser will help to convince more and more of just how crazy the man really is |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. There was a lady |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. that's the truth. these folks have got to get re-elected....i have hope |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. Honestly, in the interest of preserving what little mental health I have left... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. To the best |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Toxic. Exactly... I am trying to focus on the GOOD- in what ever measure |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. "All I need is the air that I breath..." |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. first, not many folks I spoke with before the address even knew who Petraeus was |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I've wondered if |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. he had his typical frown at the beginning |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. Didn't Watch, Couldn't Bear It |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. From the clips I saw, |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
46. IMHO Bush just undercut any good that Petraeus and Crocker accomplished... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Good. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Petraeus and Crocker attempted to substitute their own credibility for Bush while he looked on... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. The Decider Detracted from his Cau$e. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. But |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I should've posted a link. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Then we're really screwn because |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. When I look at |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. And you have put your finger on a very important point... people no longer trust Bush n/t |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. The guy's effect is that of a madman. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
51. I think the hard core 30% will dig in but it peeled off a few more leaners. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Good. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. That 30% |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Don't bet on the MOE. You'd lose 19 times out of 20. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You May Be Right |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. Catapulting the propaganda is always a gain -n/t |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
60. Unfortunately I can't answer because I didn't watch. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-14-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #60 |
72. But |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-13-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. my local news just portrayed bu$h* as a hero..finallly, due to the success, we can bring toops home' |
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