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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:55 AM
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White House ‘red-faced’ over Rove remark
Karl Rove was quoted telling a group of conservatives he supports President Bush’s immigration policies because “I don’t want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas.” ABC reports: “The White House does not deny that Rove made the remark but claims it has been taken out of context. … Rove was not insulting those people in those jobs, the White House explained, he was, according to Perino, saying that every parent wants their child to have a high-skilled, high-wage job.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/09/white-house-stands-by-rove-immigration-remark/
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:57 AM
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1. My Ashcroft. (nt)
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:57 AM
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2. my Rumsfeld hurts now n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:59 AM
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3. Out of context. Karl Rove. Freedom fries. Shock and Awe.
What do you say we hold the Iowa caucus this coming Tuesday?
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:00 AM
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4. To quote a famous scene from "Blazing Saddles"
Buuullll Shit!

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:03 AM
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7. You'd do it for
Ronald Reagan Randolph Scott.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:27 AM
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10. RANDOLPH SCOTT!
ha..

He Rode a Blazing Saddle, He Wore a Shining Star, His Job to Offer Battle, to Bad Men Near or Far...


that guy who sang that just died this week I think...



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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:41 AM
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11. Yeah, Frankie Laine
In the extras on the DVD, Mel Brooks said Laine didn't know the film was a comedy, and he sang the shit out of the song like it was some '40s Western epic.

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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:58 AM
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12. OMG, I just fell out laughing
Thanks, I needed that. Poor Frankie, but it's just as well he didn't know. The delivery makes it all the funnier. That backstory snippet is just gold.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:14 AM
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18. Mongo like candy
And who could forget, "Mongo only pawn in game of life."
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:52 PM
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26. RIP Frankie Laine
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 02:57 AM
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32. that is HYSTERICAL
thanks for the info!



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:00 AM
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5. He just wants those brown skinned to do the job
That's why W allows the illegal influx.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:02 AM
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6. Karl Rove: A genetic mistake. n/t
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:06 AM
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8. I have 100% respect for anyone who can work a tough, often thankless job
like picking tomatoes or making beds. I would rather have my child or spouse work the drive-thru at Wendy's (like I did) than be a peice of shit nation-wrecker like Karl Rove.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:03 AM
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13. Damn straight!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:42 PM
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24. we rely on the bed makers and tomato pickers
Whereas what is Karl's role exactly, last I heard he was detailed to help with GOP 2006
campaign, since he did such a stellar job with that, what is he paid to do now?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:22 PM
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30. His job now? strongarm the republicans so they will block debate on Iraq
Do what he always does. Protect bush will bullying tactics and lies about good Democrats
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:42 PM
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31. well, I was talking about his paying job, not his volunteer work
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:12 AM
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9. Rove was as elitist as it comes
Like the Bush twins, those jobs are for others, not our kind.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:17 AM
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14. war is peace and up is down
:eyes:



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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 05:58 AM
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15. then Rove deserves a bread and water diet and a bed of nails to sleep on n/t
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:10 AM
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16. He wants his child to be a megalomaniac who ruins the world, just like him.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 08:13 AM
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17. What if John Kerry had said that shit?
Edited on Sun Feb-11-07 08:18 AM by Hubert Flottz
It would be front page and on every TV screen...

EDIT...How about sending that 17 year old to Boot Camp and on to Iraq Karl? You helped to start that war so invest your blood too.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:16 PM
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19. While the comments Rove made about his son not having
to make beds and pick tomatoes was suppose to be construed as a message that most parents have for their children-Get a high skilled, high wage job. The White House seemed to leave out which children are entitled to those jobs.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:32 PM
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23. He meant what he said because he was making a case
for a guest worker program. If he was saying that he wanted his children to have a good job, he would have been talking about education. Sorry that was an out and out racist remark that meant white American's people's kids shouldn't be doing menial labor because we have all those poor people from Latin America who can do them so let's bring them in to do the menial labor as long as they don't expect decent wages or the ability to be upwardly mobile.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:21 PM
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20. Karl Rove has a son? I thought he was gay..
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:27 PM
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21. Oh, like they never heard similar remarks out of him before?
He was comfortable with saying that to what he perceived as a like minded audience, probably just like the same peeps he has back at the White House. I think it's time the GOP started giving their members in public office sensitivity training, that is if they want to stop pissing off potential voters.
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:30 PM
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22. If Karl Rove has a 17-year old son, why isn't he preparing to
go to Iraq?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:44 PM
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25. And the shame of it is letting him breed in the first place.
His line should be extinct.
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Kixel Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:13 PM
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27. Ha!
Thank you for that. You would think through natural selection that would have happened...
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 02:35 PM
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28. Self-respectable jobs are going away in this country
In the past, there were plenty of different jobs that someone could do and not have to feel ashamed saying it. Some involved wearing a suit and tie, others required grubbier clothes. But the jobs entailed responsibility, rewarded experience, and provided a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day. You had to know your shit to get it done and could also provide for yourself and a family on the wages earned.

There are too many ghetto jobs in this country. I'm not just talking burger flipping, I'm talking office dronework, too. No parent looks at their child and says "I want my son/daughter to grow up and work as a ditchdigger." That's not to say that ditches don't need digging but if someone is capable of working at a higher level than that, isn't it a shame if they don't? The owner of the company I work at started in the industry as a laborer and worked his way up to being a general contractor. He helped his first son thorugh college and that son is now working at the same company, starting in sales and now working in management. His other son is working at the company off and on as a laborer. By all accounts the second son has the same intellectual ability, he just never wanted to apply himself.

I lay blame squarely at the feet of consolidation and giant corporatist efficiency. Look at the mergers we see. Two companies, two customer bases, now they're merged and doing the work of one. All these workers downsized. "Wow! This must be really helping the economy with all the money that's saved!" Really? Where does that saved money go, into the "help the ecnomy trust fund?" No. It goes directly to the executards and shareholders of the dominant company. How does that help anyone?

We used to have family-owned farming businesses in this country. They've been consolidated away. We used to have industrialist-owned factories that still managed to pay a decent wage to American workers. Those have been outsourced away. There used to at least be a decent set of white collar jobs for the college-educated middle class to work in. Those are in the process of being oursourced, downsized, and consolidated. The only jobs that will be left to the lower classes are the ones not cost effective enough to warrant designing a robot for the task.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:01 PM
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29. THAT'S what they're red-faced over?
:eyes:
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