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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:11 AM
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Tony Snow: Reporters more liberal than average Americans
Tony Snow: Reporters more liberal than average Americans
They're not crusaders, the departing White House press secretary says, but their outlook makes it harder for GOP administrations to communicate.
By David Cook

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0914/p25s04-usmb.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0914/p25s04-usmb.html?page=2

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One of Snow's most interesting responses concerned how the nature of White House press coverage has changed. Here is an extended excerpt of what he said on that topic:

"Something very interesting and somewhat troubling is taking place, which is that the advent of 24-hour cable has everybody so eager to get the scoop – by scoop it means some new piece of information that hasn't been reported in the previous hour – that you see a change in the approach of many reporters to what is going on.

"Rather than having some in depth and thoughtful analysis pieces, you've got process, process, process. And a lot of times you have people doing the process piece as opposed to trying to sort of get into the guts of the thing. It is difficult. News organizations don't have the resources they used to have to set people free to do a lot of those long investigative pieces and series that they used to do. But it doesn't change my thinking that the profession is poorer for it. So I do think a lot of times, if I have a frustration, it is that ... I love working with the White House press corps and sometimes we do end up speaking different languages.

"I do think there is something to the fact that, in general terms, members of the press tend to be more liberal. That's just the way it is. If you doubt it, just look around and think how many people in this room voted for a Republican the last time around. On the other hand, it is not something where reporters get into the business to be anti-Republican crusaders. I don't think that is true at all. I just think that sometimes there is, to quote Cool Hand Luke, 'a failure to communicate.'

"And it is incumbent on those who work in Republican White Houses to try to bridge that gap by trying to talk about things in a way that allows reporters to understand intellectually the underpinnings of what we are doing, why we are doing it, and how we think it is going to play out. And I think if there is a shortcoming, sometimes it is a shortcoming on our part.

"But again, in overall terms, I think the one thing that maybe is most frustrating is sometimes everybody swoops in on the process questions and never gets to the deeper questions."

Snow lingered after the session chatting with reporters and said he is considering writing two books. It is clear that the soon-to-be-former press secretary intends to stay active in political life. One goal, he says, is to "play some constructive role in lowering the temperature" of the country's political dialogue.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:22 AM
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1. When will his people EVER be freeee?!?!?!?
culture of victimization :eyes:

He was on CNN Thursday and amongst other nonsense he said that Bush's popularity doesn't mean anything and cited the press's lower popularity as proof. There is a link to VIDEO in this thread too.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1807180
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:28 AM
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2. Exactly HOW MANY
average Americans does fucking Tony Snow know?????
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:58 AM
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17. Probably none, that he actually pays attention too.
:shrug: I wish repuglicants would stop telling us what we average Americans feel/think/are. :banghead:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:30 AM
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3. only with the truth
nt
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:31 AM
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22. Everyone knows the truth has a STRONG Liberal Bias
:shrug: because of that I probably agree with him.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:34 AM
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4. And Tony has a real gauge for the average American --
-- He had his rightwing chatter show.
-- He's been the mouthpiece for the Bush administration.

Truly, who better to read the political barometer than Tony?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:40 AM
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5. members of the press might be liberal but what about their editors and media owners- the ones who
actually decide WHAT will be covered and HOW it will get covered?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:43 AM
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6. Not so much the editors as it is media owners n/t
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:43 AM
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7. Just maybe
Just maybe reporters are SMARTER than the average American.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:59 AM
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15. They certainly have access to more information.. . . . .n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:45 AM
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8. Funny- for neocons, the more well-informed a person is the more liberal they are.
Therefore, reporters - whose job it is to go out & find out the truth are the most liberal of all.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:47 AM
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9. LMAO. The media is liberal!? This coming from a former member of the liberal media.
Then we'll get to hear Tony's ideas pounded into our heads from the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush, Michael Weiner, Ann She-Devil Coulter, Tony Blankley, Robert Novak, etc etc etc. All that liberal media bias. LOL

I hate to tell Snowjob, but the process is important. If you overlook the process, you overlook all the nasty stuff that the GOP has tried to pull and you don't understand the big picture as to why they are trying to pull nasty stuff. Reporters need to cover process and explain it much better than they have.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:50 AM
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10. I had this conversation with Snow before.
He told me that most reporters are liberal. I asked, "What about Fox News reporters?" He answered, "Those aren't reporters, they're entertainers." Then I woke up.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:09 AM
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11. Republican mental illness runs deep
Tony has some epic defenses built up here. This takes "projection" to a level that needs further study.

But it is deeply, deeply entrenched.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:04 PM
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24. snow's running for his life
strange how little we hear about this- the terror among busheviki, esp. mediawhores like snow or judas miller/novak/friedman/woodward etc...there must be realms of stories about it, but it really gets too close to the common feature all of them share; bush is a mass murdering anti american nazi style thug who was put into office despite majority opinion and against the law. it is 'lol' time for liberal/lefties
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:10 AM
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12. I see his point.
Tony uses Fox as the middle-ground, fair-balanced position, so naturally "normal" reporters would seem to be just a bit left of Hugo Chavez to him :)
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:43 AM
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13. In GOP-world, the proper function of the reporter is to serve as a stenographer for the govt.
FOX gets it right almost all the time.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:46 AM
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14. Maybe it's because they see more of the truth during the....
early parts of their careers working the beat.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:52 AM
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16. I have no doubt this is true
People become journalists for two major reasons: to help tell people's stories and B: to address what they see as injustices. These are not republican motifs.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:59 AM
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18. Even *if* reporters were mostly liberal, their editors and publishers and owners sure as hell aren't
(see also: Rupert Murdoch's "news" empire)

Hate to answer a generalization with another one....
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:16 AM
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19. "the advent of 24-hour cable has everybody so eager to get the scoop"
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 10:16 AM by slowry
on Paris Hilton, Harry Potter, whichever whistleblowers need smearing, whether Michael Moore is a liar of the 3rd or 4th degree, who "punked" Karl Rove, whether AQI is the greatest threat of this century, or of all time, whether we should really be questioning the illegal Iraq invasion "as it happens", or should we wait to see how things pan out (in 30 years), whether torture is awesome or just necessary, how comical it is that we can't take X on airplanes, how much we all do and must "support the troops", which is code for "support however we decide to get tens of thousands of them, and millions of civilians maimed/killed", whether global warming is 100% or 99% phony, whether Lewis Libby was completely innocent or just an honest victim of circumstance, ...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:16 AM
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20. Thank you, Obvious Man
:nuke:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:28 AM
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21. If Tony Snow thinks Tim Russert is liberal, then Tony needs to meet some average Americans.
Of course, the real issue is media ownership, not the leanings of any particular journalist.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:32 AM
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23. Bush shills:
More ignorant than average Americans.
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