McCain is polling at, what, 4-5%? Why is he ALL OVER the "liberal media" but Kucinich is nowhere????

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in most polls, McCain's around 15%-20%.

Kucinich is at 1%-2%

why bother to be be bothered with a crappy poll.

I looked at a few. McCain was polling in almost all between 15% and 22%.

And I'm not bothered by it - I'm just responding to the factual error in the OP.

Which one is crappy?

or are they all crappy because you don't like what they say?

Never thought of it that way -- you're right!

If he is, you've got a good point. But poster #1 claims the situation is actually very different. It would help if one or both of you could provide a link in support of your claim.

showing McCain at 15-22%

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm


Here's a bunch showing Kucinich at 1-2%

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08dem.htm

It seems the "liberal media" and its pollsters has even excluded Kucinich's name in some of the polls (www.pollingreport.com)

No wonder.

He's a threat to the American Corporatocracy.

is that he's just not that important.

If he won Iowa, he'd be on the cover of Time and Newsweek. If he started raising any appreciable money and rising in the polls, he'd get attention.

Nobody's afraid of Dennis Kucinich.

While they paint Obama as some sort of Second Coming for the Democratic Party yet has almost nothing of substance or detail behind him. He's playing it safe right now.

who get little attention?

Are they afraid of Chris Dodd? Tom Tancredo? Alan Keyes? Ole Savior? Or do they not get much attention because they have little to no chance of actually winning anything?

But Keyes ran for President twice before, and he didn't get wide coverage in those runs. Dodd also happens to be a sitting US senator, and they are frequently on Meet the Press. But I never see Dodd much of anywhere else.

So you think the dozens or hundreds of news outlets in the country ALL conspire to keep DK down, and not ONE enterprising reporter can produce a memo or a phone message indicating this?

Isn't it just more likely that he's not important right now? If he started getting money and polling numbers, he WOULD get more media attention.

but SOME money.

If you can't raise any money, you have no hope of winning. That's the truth.


Now... back to the point at hand. Do you agree that McCain and Kucinich do not have similar poll numbers?

And I won't be surprised to see him back down there soon.

where he has name recognition.

Most of the polls do include DK, but AP doesn't nor does CBS. But AP also excluded several repubs from their poll of repub candidates, limiting the number of choices to 7 candidates in both the repub and Democratic polls. And CBS limited the number of candidates in their polls for both parties as well.

to open their eyes to whats happening to our country and to their rights, so we will probably never see a candidate that speaks for the people as president ever again. The sad part is I cant even protect my own rights because these Americans when they talk, sound like the media has paid them, when its just their ignorance has allowed the media to brainwash them and form their thoughts. Reality is there and some refuse to see what is happening? You would think with the country continuing to head in a downward spiral, some would wake up and realize that the media and most of our politicians are only concerned with staying in power and wealth, they are not concerned with those same people that spread their agenda without even knowing they are?

and that we only think we have choices?

No need to invade them. They already have our democracy!!

You'd *think* if the media were liberal they'd be focusing on the most progressive candidate amongst the Dem candidates and that would easily be Kucinich.

The 'liberal media' is one of the great myths, the 'big lie', even, of our time....

"Reality has a liberal bias."

It's a much further fall for McCain: He was the putative front runner as recently as last year, and:

the media has fun with big implosions.

he *was* an extremely popular politician. And he still commands a much wider audience than kucinich, despite his poor primary numbers.

Kucinich is a threat to those who profit from war.

It's sad. We could do so much better.

I fear that if he were elected he'd be assassinated. Maybe it's best that they ignore him. How's that for the ultimate in cynicism.

....except that Dodd is getting front-row seating for television in comparison to Kucinich, but he is polling lower.

It is clear that there is a media blackout on Kucinich. As for the reason why, I can only guess, but there are sure a lot of reasons to choose from. Not the least of which is that Kucinich says the things that the media has ignored since Reagan.

McCain is polling at 15% in the latest AP poll:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iP6aoeuUCqIEo5DHDOCMLHyUOCpg

Which scientifically conducted polls show Kucinich getting anywhere that much support?

just like Hill Obama and Edwards